Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/ 2009-01-07T21:05:06-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2004-11-06T04:08:50-05:00 Corvus Raven http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=60#201263 IBM also supports Linux.<br /> <br /> Wow.. <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"> text/html 2004-11-05T20:11:01-05:00 Super XP http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=60#201097 It really sucks when you have a company &quot;INTEL&quot; that can try and screw the industry up. Intel hopes that we all wait for them to catch up. Well, that is too bad INTEL, you fell behind, and now you are more than 18 months behind. That is where you belong.<br /> <br /> <br /> AMD is a hard working company, and I admire this. They are full of innovation and imagination.<br /> <br /> If Micro$oft plays there cards right, they will make everybody very happy with AMD’s phenomenal technology and the aggressive marketing geniuses at Micro$oft. Heck, IBM even supports AMD 100%.<br /> <br /> They don’t play games.<br /> text/html 2004-11-05T19:41:43-05:00 Corvus Raven http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=60#201085 May! Wow.. while back fo rsomeone to make a presence felt.<br /> <br /> I have to re-read everything to refreash my memory on what was going on. <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"><br /> <br /> I think in some respects that M 4will have to let Intel go.. unless Intel can get their production lines in gear and turn out cheaper (yeah.. right) and better (yeah right) performing 64bit CPUs. Otherwise M$ will have little choice but to rethink their standing with Intel. I don't see M$ being one not ot make money on something. AMD has the something they can make money on -- 64 bit tech. text/html 2004-11-05T09:10:33-05:00 Super XP http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#200966 Were did everybody GO!<br /> <br /> Intel spreeding rumors again.<br /> <br /> Intel claims edge over AMD on dual core chips<br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19478" target="_blank">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19478</a><br /> <br /> Little do they know that AMD will ROCK the Dual Core Industry!<br /> Mind you, AMD is the first again to stear the industry. <br /> <br /> text/html 2004-05-31T05:23:37-05:00 Shadow_Ops_Airman1 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#139344 well super my AMD XP 3200+ temps i think are stable cause im able to play UT2k4 without lag and also i am using the latest Nvidia drivers and ATI drivers and games run smooth, i noticed that my 3D mark score is low but i leave the program on defaults and i dont make any adjustment to settings in that program, or the vid card itself excluding Verticle Sync for both D3D and Open GL. text/html 2004-05-31T05:20:48-05:00 Shadow_Ops_Airman1 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#139342 super XP i got a look at the BTX design, only difference is the position of the CPU, and maybe ram, but anyways the back panel connectors are still the same and it will fit the ATX case cause the mounting holes are the same. text/html 2004-05-31T05:13:52-05:00 Corvus Raven http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#139336 The CLK speed to quickly fill bottle necks.. And pipes.<br /> <br /> yeah.. wee..<br /> <br /> That doesn't mean that the processes are completed/resolved any quicker. Otherwise Intel would be way ahead on benches against the underachive'n speeds of AMD. text/html 2004-05-31T04:22:56-05:00 Stephen Grinwis http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#139315 i think you guys need to realise that the prescott core is only a stepping stone for a more advanced architechure offering a lot of performance scaleability... just wait for the larger bused cores.. they kick the sorry A64's ass while AMD's engineers are still trying to figure out how to get clock speeds up to the 3 ghz mark. hyperthreading, and helper threading will eventually be able to improve resource usage by around 30%... and combine that with intel's much higher clock rate, and the tendancy of todays users to run multiple applications, and Intel will retake the market in two years... text/html 2004-04-24T04:03:20-05:00 Super XP http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#128095 AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 2.650GHz<br /> Normal Temp. 32C, Full Load 38C to 42C<br /> Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (Vcore 1.95v)<br /> KingMAX Dual Channel DDR400 512MB x 2<br /> 212MHz FSB (DDR 424MHz), Multi 12.5x<br /> ATI Radeon 9700 Pro<br /> Volcano Extreme 12 w/Arctic Silver 5 (thermal paste)<br /> Etc.<br /> Etc.<br /> text/html 2004-04-23T23:41:13-05:00 James Marlin http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#128037 Hey Airman, AMD has released a new processor family that runs much cooler then the 3200+.<br /> <br /> Just like how near the end of the K6-2's life they released the mobile K6-2+ and K6-3+ which ran super cool, and over clocked with ease.<br /> AMD has now released the XP mobile family. I just built a system around (check out my profile for more info) the Athlon XP M 2500+ (Barton core). It's supposed to run on a 133FSB at 1.86ghz and 45w at 1.45 volt (default settings) no idea on temps.<br /> Mine is currently running at 40C with a Aeroflow heat-sink, this is with a OC to 2.34ghz on a 166FSB, 1.55 volt totally stable. Sandra states a sweet 3400+ PR for my current OC.<br /> It's not all cream because video isn't stable on a 200FSB for some reason, either memory, MB chip-set, or PSU, can't say.<br /> This CPU is unlocked (mine won't go lower the 9.5 for some reason) and many people are stating 2.6, 2.7 and even 2.8ghz OCs for this chip. I decided to go lower so I get the performance, but can still have a cool and quite system.<br /> <br /> You know the really funny thing about this CPU, the site I got it from lists if for $145CND and the 3200+ for $300CND. I got mine from them during a &quot;March Madness&quot; sale for $120CND. Why would I, or any one else for that matter, spend another $180 for an obviously inferior CPU?<br /> <br /> As for the rest, well we can all dream, but I doubt AMD would rework the K-7 core to add those extra capabilities, not worth it from their view point IMHO. text/html 2004-04-23T23:15:59-05:00 Super XP http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#128031 Intel is trying to drive the BTX form factor into our throats. They claim that, BTX will solve there CPU heat issues. <br /> But I don't think it will take off as fast as they like it to take off. The world is not ready to give up ATX. And if AMD don't move to BTX, then nobody will. AMD has shown the way in technology for many years.<br /> Plus BTX will be very expensive. text/html 2004-04-23T22:40:20-05:00 James Marlin http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#128027 I've heard that Intel plans to release a PCI Express chip-set some time this summer. That means that P4 users should see a MB by early to late fall, and I've heard that it should be a BTX MB as well.<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if an A64 PCI Express chip-set came out around the same time as well, or soon after.<br /> The problem is that early adopters often get to beta test/trouble shoot new technology, and pay more for the right to do it (ain't life grand?). Plus your initial selection is quite limited to boot.<br /> <br /> So IMHO I'd say mid 2005 should be the best time to start considering a PCI Express MB. Prices should be a bit more reasonable, most of the &quot;bugs&quot; in the chip-sets/MBs should be dealt with as well, and more manufactures should be on board, making for more chip-sets/MBs to choose from.<br /> <br /> Another thing, there's a 50/50 chance that I'm right on this, but there's a good chance that all this new technology (at least for the first year or two) will only be available as high end parts (read expensive), so you'll quite likely be looking at a $500 bill for a PCI Express graphics card, maybe more.<br /> <br /> As I said early, with the speed you currently have, you could build a extremely cheap system (XP 2500+ or the CPU I currently have), and it would, IMHO any way, simply blow you away. On the other hand a A64/PCI Express system won't be cheap, but man-o-man, it won't just blow you away IMHO, but it'll blow you through your wall, like the &quot;lame #ss&quot; G5 is supposed to.<br /> <br /> I guess it's up to you, wait or buy now. text/html 2004-04-21T23:55:14-05:00 Super XP http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#127555 I don't think AMD is moving to DDR2 just yet. It costs too much money, and only works good with high memory speeds like 600MHz and up. Plus, when there is finaly market demand, then they will start using DDR2 or even DDR3 and just skip DDR2.<br /> <br /> DDR2 <br /> Only works good with high Ram speed. (600MHz+)<br /> Get extremely HOT and dosn't out perform DDR1 in lower Ram speeds.<br /> Is expensive to produce<br /> <br /> DDR3<br /> Works amazing with low and high Ram speeds.<br /> Out-performs DDR2<br /> Runs cooler than DDR1 &amp; DDR2<br /> Cheaper to produce than DDR2. text/html 2004-04-21T17:56:48-05:00 chris brown http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#127439 In my above posts i meant PCI Express not PCI-X (they are different things right?)<br /> <br /> Will dual channel support/ddr2 be added in the socket 939 release of the A64? Late summer??<br /> <br /> Anyway any rough estimate of a release date would be good. Thanks in advance. text/html 2004-04-21T15:39:16-05:00 chris brown http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/21170/?o=40#127415 When can we expect to see PCI-X in mobos for desktops? I hear it's just made it into the server market so would the end of 04 be a sensible estimate for A64 mobos?<br /> <br /> What about DDR2 and dual channel support for the A64? Any news from AMD on that as to me that would be the icing on the cake for the A64.<br /> <br /> I hope it won't be too long as I really want (need!) a new pc and this definitely seems a bad time to be buying! especially an amd based system.<br />