Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/ 2008-08-20T07:17:41-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2008-07-20T09:44:01-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541170 exactly, thats why i am not so crazy about the idea either. <br /> i understand that they want to even the playing field a lil bit but on the other hand, if i a willing or able to spend or contribute more, then i should get rewarded for appropiatlly ...not neccessarly evenly. text/html 2008-07-20T07:07:40-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541154 Sounds to me like they are trying to commercialize it. Expensive hardware is not purchased to run F@H--F@H is an after thought so, price/performance in regards to F@H is completely irrelevant. I think they made a bad call there. text/html 2008-07-20T05:32:35-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541144 yap<br /> <br /> here is a link to the list with all the supported nvidia gpu's<br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html</a><br /> <br /> here are the applicable drivers to download: 64 bit version are available for winXP and Vista <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html</a><br /> <br /> <div class="quote"><br /> About the points system: I just hope it is honest. By that I mean it should grant points on work done and not based on how it was done. Since GPUs are better at doing these kinds of calculations, they should get more WUs done and as a result, should be rewarded more points. Yeah CPU-only users get shafted but that's just the nature of the beast. It's not like this is really a competition anyway. At least I don't see it that way. I'm only doing it for the sake of medical research and make use of all those spare clocks.</div><br /> effeciency, power consumption and price/performance are now paramount calculation factors. not actual amount of work performed. <br /> so now if you have a client/hardware setup that cost you an arm and a leg, it does not neccessarly mean that you will get more PPD's<br /> i kind of can see why they are doing it but ...ah...dunno text/html 2008-07-20T04:56:53-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541135 Some other important stuff from the FAQs answering my questions above:<br /> <br /> <div class="quote">What hardware does the new client/core support?<br /> <br /> The client runs on <br /> <br /> GeForce 8xxx <br /> GeForce 9xxx <br /> Quadro FX 360, 370, 570, 1600, 1700, 3600, 3700, 4600, 5600 <br /> Quadro NVS 130, 135, 140, 290, 320 <br /> Tesla C870* <br /> MCP77/78* <br /> NVIDIA GeForce G* </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="quote">Can I still use my GPU when the client is running?<br /> <br /> Yes. Unlike the original GPU client, which interfered with many operations that used the GPU, the new GPU2 client does not. Playing videos and playing games either have no effect on the action of the GPU client other than a slow-down in processing, or cause a temporary suspension of folding. The new client will automatically back off whenever an application requests exclusive DirectX mode, although it is not reported in the client logfile. DirectX programs that do not request exclusive mode will cause the GPU client to slow down, and may in some instances have a detrimental effect on application performance. Full screen video is unaffected by the GPU client.</div> text/html 2008-07-20T04:51:15-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541133 <div class="quote">Basic Requirements: <br /> <br /> - a GeForce, Quadro, or Tesla card that supports CUDA (G80 or later for the most part) <br /> - A CUDA capable driver, version 174.55 is recommended. Or 177.35 for GTX cards. <br /> - 32-bit Windows operating system, XP or newer (better Vista support coming soon); <b>64-bit Windows operating systems appear to currently be incompatible</b> (We're working on this too.) </div><br /> Scratch that. Both my computers with G80+ graphics cards are running x86-64 OSs. I'll have to wait until they get that sorted...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> About the points system: I just hope it is honest. By that I mean it should grant points on work done and not based on how it was done. Since GPUs are better at doing these kinds of calculations, they should get more WUs done and as a result, should be rewarded more points. Yeah CPU-only users get shafted but that's just the nature of the beast. It's not like this is really a competition anyway. At least I don't see it that way. I'm only doing it for the sake of medical research and make use of all those spare clocks. text/html 2008-07-20T04:40:28-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541132 here are the high performance clients, smp, gpu, etc<br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther" target="_blank">http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther</a><br /> <br /> the point system was changed &quot;updated&quot; because the other half felt shafted.<br /> at first it was supposed to give the gpu clients a boost but then many cpu folders argued that the gpu folder are already getting preferantial treatment. so all was reevalutated. <br /> everything should be in relation to bang for the buck plus power consumption.<br /> <br /> so for example gpu client: <br /> a nvidia 9600gt should be about the same as 8800 gt (g92) or 8800gtx (g80)<br /> why? the 8800's, both would probably produce more work but they cost more and use a lot more wattage, therfore the PPD = points per day output will be about the same or lower<br /> *just an example* text/html 2008-07-20T04:17:56-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541130 BoT said: <div class="quote">they changed the point system and reevaluated a lot of there testing machines<br /> they have been goin back and forth about this for awhile now<br /> good goin</div><br /> Ah, makes sense but people that were folding up to that point got shafted. <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile2.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":(" title=":("><br /> <br /> <br /> BoT said: <div class="quote">anybody got the gpu client to work on any nvidia card yet?</div><br /> I didn't. I will look into it after I format again (in a week or two). I'm not going to run it on my server until I try it on my desktop first. I am particularly interested in if it will basically stop when playing games or not. Otherwise, I am going to have to make me an application that terminates all running instances of F@H for game time. XD<br /> <br /> Um, I looked on the site and can't find a download for it. Do you have the URL and what cards are supported? text/html 2008-07-20T04:03:25-05:00 Joshua Marius http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541127 I'll fold a few for Hardware Analysis as I have my own team <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"><br /> <br /> Glad to see a lot of you participate in this <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"> text/html 2008-07-20T03:57:04-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541125 they changed the point system and reevaluated a lot of there testing machines<br /> they have been goin back and forth about this for awhile now<br /> good goin<br /> <br /> anybody got the gpu client to work on any nvidia card yet? text/html 2008-07-20T03:45:44-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#541122 Something must have changed because my score went from 300,000 to 400,000 in two months (May 20 to July 19). <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile9.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":|" title=":|"><br /> <br /> Either the recent WU's are optimized to run on Core 2-based processors or they changed the point system.<br /> <br /> Really, the only change on my end was the move from Windows XP Professional x64 Edition to Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition (64-bit). I seriously doubt that could impact a score by much though. text/html 2008-05-28T06:49:44-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#536925 Um, no? text/html 2008-05-28T06:44:48-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#536924 did you give the smp client a shot? text/html 2008-05-28T05:57:27-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#536923 Yay! When are they going to make a 64-bit client that is multithreaded so I don't need to manually start x number of instances myself? Copying eight directories, naming them all, making shortcuts, then running through eight individual configurations is really a pain in the ass. They need to accommodate the multi-core environment and they need to do it soon. If this Pande guy can't do it, they need to find someone that can. text/html 2008-05-28T04:55:29-05:00 BoT http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#536921 well, they are targeting the G280's and G260's but there will be a client for the G80's and G92's as well. still not much confirmed and it seems pande is not to happy that the info leaked before his own publication. <br /> i would be suprised if the 8xxx series cards would not be supported.<br /> <br /> matter o fact - from the big guy himself:<br /> <div class="quote">Re: Folding@Home NVIDIA GPU Client Confirmed<br /> <b>by VijayPande</b> on Fri May 23, 2008 5:35 pm <br /> <br /> We should be able to support any card/driver combo that supports CUDA (most G80 cards or later).</div><br /> <br /> which includes:<br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html</a> text/html 2008-05-28T04:49:09-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/27845/?l=1#536920 So I take it my 8800 GT and 8500 GT won't support it. <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile2.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":(" title=":(">