Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/ 2009-11-24T22:45:33-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/ /images/halogo.gif text/html 2006-02-12T04:25:13-05:00 mitchell farq http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/?o=20#382247 hello i am having a problem with my monitor it was starting normaly now nothing can be veiwed from it. would changing the k8 CPU clock ratio from default to four times 800mhz have anything to do with this?<br /> <br /> these are my specs:<br /> <br /> Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard<br /> albertron 7800 GT super high<br /> 1 gig of GEIL ram <br /> AMD 3700+<br /> 550w power supply<br /> Western Digital 200GB sata2<br /> <br /> It setup windows from a boot disk and formated the drive then resets itself and then thats when the monitor showed no more.<br /> <br /> any help would be good<br /> thanks text/html 2006-01-18T16:53:20-05:00 james lawrence http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#373072 hi there<br /> i have recently had the exact same problem with a ga7vaxp MB. i wont bore you with the list of things i tried to fix it but it never got fxed. so i replaced the MB (and at the same time upgrade graphics card and extra HD, very nice) and everything seemed fine. the new MB is a G7n400S-L. i wanted to keep my processor (2800XP) and skt A motherboards are so cheap that i though why not. like i said everything was fine for two weeks, couldn't play games with my new graphics card but that's on its way back to be replaced, so i know that's a seperate issue. then today, the same thing that happened before happened again. No POST, and no beeps of any kind, at all. tried everything i could think of, no joy. <br /> here's my questions:<br /> <br /> 1) should a motherboard post with no processor in it?<br /> 2) would a messed up processor work in a new MB for a while then screw it up?<br /> <br /> I'd be greatful of any help, i know what i'm doing with computers (although i'm no expert) but i can only fix things i've come accross before and fixed. <br /> i've tried everything except a different processor, because i do not have a different processor, nor does anyone i know because they all have silly, expensive pentiums or super 64's.<br /> <br /> many thanks in advance<br /> <br /> james text/html 2006-01-03T21:15:11-05:00 michael Payne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#366884 Most of these things have been done long ago.... I didn't try to run the MB out of the case, but it has been removed and inspected. There were no obvious signs of damage to the MB, and no strange odors. At one time or another, I *have* replaced every single component with another, except for the MB and CPU. I have tried running the computer with nothing installed but a video card, a single hdd, a single ram module, the MB and CPU, and the power supply. the power supply was checked, and verified to be working. The rest of the components have been placed in another system to make sure they all work. At this point (more than a year after the original problem, I am not willing to risk any new processor or MB I bought by checking these components with them. I might look around for an old *really cheap* duron processor at some point, but since I don't really intend to do much with these old components unless I need to put together an el cheapo computer for someone, I'm not going to look too hard. thanks for trying to help though <img src="/images/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"> text/html 2006-01-01T14:50:52-05:00 Shadow_Ops_Airman1 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#366049 OK Take the Motherboard outside the case and put on a non conductive platform. (cardboardbox etc) check the motherboard for signs of physical damage, (burn spots) bulging Capacitors/ capacitors with White stuff oozing out/crusty stuff ontop of capacitors, broken resistors etc, check IO connectors for damage. Check Plug in boards for damage, check drives for damage, get fresh IDE cables and floppy cables. Check Powersupply for damage. Run the motherboard outside of the case to see if anything changes. if not power off system and check the heatsink for proper seating and also check the CPU for any damage, if possible get another CPU (prefer a boxed CPU with heatsink at lower rating that one you have) Reset the BIOS and see if motherboard boots. Try removing plug in boards 1 at a time, place em in back 1 at a time, try plugging in the boards in different slot. text/html 2006-01-01T14:25:51-05:00 michael Payne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#366041 OOps, sorry guys, I completely forgot about this thread. I ended up buying a whole new MB and processor. still never figured out which was bad, because I didn't want to risk either my new processor or MB trying to figure it out. anyways, I also ended up having problems from the first TWO companies I tried to order from.... NEVER EVER EVER buy from NT-Micro... took them a month and a half to send me my product, and THEN then sent it out THE DAY AFTER i canceled the order. Next went to BZBoys, and though the shipping was fast, they sold me a combo unit that included an extremely nice heat-sink fan unit, that unfortunately did not fit on the MB unles you &quot;bent back two capacitors&quot; not being the most dextorous person, I was not willing to try this. After several attempts at e-mailing them, I finally got someone to send me an RMA *and* shipping label. it ended up OK, and I'd ahve to say in the end BZboys took care of me. however it took me so long to get in touch with them, that I tried a third company, <a class="ext" target="_blank" href="/action/r/http://Chiefvalue.com">Chiefvalue.com</a>, who went above and beyond the call of duty. at every point they were the picture of 110% customer service, they took the MB/heatsink combo I'd ordered from the other company, tried to get their tech to install it, and told me that it was not possible without risking damage, but that it could be done if you are *very very* careful. they then tried another heatsink unit to make sure it would fit for me, *and* gave me a discount. then they gave me free shipping (option was not available at the time, but they were going to start a promotion a month later) for UPS next day air. and I really did recieve my MB/processor and heat sink the day after I ordered it. to end a long story short-ish, I've since placed 7 other orders with <a class="ext" target="_blank" href="/action/r/http://chiefvalue.com">chiefvalue.com</a>, and the one time there was a problem with the order, they took it back, and replaced it no questions asked. I *very highly recommend* this company<br /> <br /> so ends my travails in trying to resolve this issue. never did find an answer, and it quite likely is that either or both the CPU and MB were fried text/html 2005-12-20T23:56:24-05:00 Dr kiora http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#361322 i had a simular problem,,, after swapping out the ram, the video card and the cpu and still had the same problem , it turned out to be my HDD on IDE 1, changed that and everthig was ok...<br /> <br /> now ive gone for a complete change and upgraded to AMD64 text/html 2005-12-19T09:10:07-05:00 kym north http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#360583 Hi, strangely enuff, i have the same mobo and i have the exact same problem.<br /> I have tried 2 cpu's a duron 600... and a new sempron 2300 <br /> i have a new stick of 256 ram new radeon 6250 card and i still get no POST beeps or any action from the monitor!<br /> hdd spins up dvd spins up fans all work! and .....nothing! what the..? text/html 2005-01-24T04:17:36-05:00 David Brown http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#231710 I'm having the Identical problem with my GA-7vaxp and I have tried all the solutions that you have posted here with the exception of swapping out my processor. If you could please give the results of whether or not your processor was good I would appreciate it. text/html 2005-01-02T15:47:53-05:00 michael Payne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#221638 First, check and double check, just in case, that your monitor cable is firmly plugged in. If the cable has posts to screw them into the monitor and video card, please make sure they are screwed tight. Those posts are there to make sure that the cable stays tight. *If you smell a smoky, ascrid, and/or burning metal smell, immediately turn off the monitor, and do not turn it on again.* In this case, you have a monitor that is going bad, and needs to be replaced. Although it's not highly likely, if you smell anything like the above, it is possible that your monitor could start a fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's not the most likely thing in the world, but this has happened to a friend of mine, so better to be safe than sorry. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the video card causing the monitor to flicker.<br /> <br /> Thanks for writing <img src="/images/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"><br /> <br /> Michael text/html 2005-01-02T03:50:03-05:00 heather doud http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#221513 i am having problems with my monitor it is flickering in and out and i dont know why can some one please help me text/html 2004-12-29T21:21:28-05:00 michael Payne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#219885 Thanks for writing... I'm hedging my bets. Kinda. I am assuming for the moment that this is not a RAM issue. and concentrating on the more likely possibilties that it is either the motherboard or the processor. so I went online last thursday, and bought a Gigabyte GA-7n400 Pro2 motherboard (maxed out the cooling options too) and a 3200+ processor. when those arrive, I am going to load the old processor in the new board, and see if everything works. if not, I'll put the new processor in the new board, (this is going to happen anyways!) and save a bit of money to buy a new 3200 processor, and put it in the old board. I'm going this route as the processor being bad is the most likely possibility.if everything works with old processor and new board, I'll put the old processor aside, and save money to buy a second GA-7n400 Pro2 or maybe even a ga-7nnxp board. either way I'll end up with two running computers.<br /> <br /> My reasons for going with the gigabyte boards is the combination of features. Dual Bios, build in sound, built in Lan, built inUSB, built in firewire, built in Promise RAID/ATA 133, etcalthough technically the second computer will not need all that hard drive space... it's going to be a gaming only machine, and will be dual-boot Win98se and WinXPone 120GHB hdd should be all I need really. partition it into 4 partitions... two system paritions, and two Data partitions.<br /> <br /> anyways, what I suggest to you, is to either buy a new MB/CPU combo, or if funds are at a premium, take a gamble, and buy a new processor.. OR you could try cannabalising a known working PC, and put the processor from it in the board on the PC that is not working right. If everything works, you know it was the CPU, if not, then it was the MB. Either way you know what needs to be replaced text/html 2004-12-29T05:16:43-05:00 Frank Garces http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#219635 I feel your pain. My friend is having the same problem with his computer. He has a amd3200, and has tried everything you have done so far. If you figure out, please post. As for his computer, we'll keep working on it, if we find any solutions or come up with anything diffrent, we'll be sure to let you know. GOOD LUCK! text/html 2004-12-23T04:01:49-05:00 Wildwood http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#217564 At this point, my money is on the processor being bad. Too bad you can't swap it out with a barrowed one. text/html 2004-12-23T02:04:07-05:00 michael Payne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#217527 OK, here is the latest tests I've run...<br /> first off, I removed all cards, drives etc leaving ONLY a power supply, a single ram chip, the gigabyte ga-7vaxp MB a 2400+ AMD Athalon XP processor, and a GeForce4 4200 video card, a keyboard and a mouse. Of course the fans attached to the MB and the Processor were left connected <img src="/images/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"> WOW a big change (NOT!) only a tiny change... the sytem no longer beeps at me at all. no single loud beep that tells me that POST was past. no single soft beep that was supposed to tell me who knows what, and certainly the monitor doesn't change status. This monitor has been verified to work on another system already. I then swapped out the single ram chip for the other ram chip. no change again. I then performed two seperate tests... first I took a verified PS that I guarantteed to work with another system, and swapped it out no change from the last time. I then swapped the PS in the gigabyte system into another system (the same one that I took the verified PS out of, and it booted up fine.... so I have verified that this is not a PS issue. I have also verified tha this is not a monitor issue, nor is it a video card issue. this leaves a few options, or combination of options<br /> <br /> 1) the MB is bad.<br /> I doubt this, because when plugged in HDD's and optical drives power up... as does the little LED light near the RAM chips that gives you warning not to try to mess with the ramchip, as they are recieving power. also I doubt this because the trackball is getting power to light up, and get brighter when I roll the ball around, and the keyboard lights up momentarily when I plug it into the PS2 port. but does not light up when I turn on the computer. if there is something wrong with my logic here, would someone with expert experience please explain what is wrong with it? I'd really like to increase my knowledge of computer repair as a result of this experience.<br /> <br /> 2) both of the ram chips are bad.<br /> if only one of them were bad, then at one point or another the system would have at least tried to POST. however keep in mind (I prolly didn't mention this before, we ARE talking about kingston memory here. they have a deserved reputation for excellence. though I do suppose anyone could make a defactive batch of memory, and memory could get fried for some reason.<br /> <br /> 3) the processor is bad I consider this the most likely possibility, and if this is the case, it's actually from my point of view the best alternative because they are fairly cheap to replace, AND I can upgrade teehee<br /> <br /> 4) any two or even tree of these could have happened... though with the PS being verified as good, and my sytem being run through a surge protector that is &quot;guarantteed up to $75,000 damage in case of failure&quot;, I'm not sure how all three could fail at once. though I still suppose anything is possible.<br /> <br /> anyone have any ideas on how I can test to see which of these possibilties are the right ones? the other system I've been mentioning is a DFI k6xv3+ with K6-III 450 processor 128MB' ram with the afore mentioned diamond viper v550 video card, a SB 16 Awe gold sound card a single 13GB hard drive, a Mitsumi CDRW and a generic 24x CD-Rom. obviously this is not a power system, it wasn't even a power system when the processor was first bought. I also highly doubt, verging on being totally astonished if any of the parts left that I need to test would work on this MB, or that the processor in this system would work with the Gigabyte MB.<br /> <br /> Thanks for any help, but before replying, please make sure that what you are asking is not something I have not already descibed. <img src="/images/smilies/smile1.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":)" title=":)"><br /> Michael text/html 2004-12-22T12:05:20-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/36229/#217174 I would try a different stick of ram, if you have 2 you can pull one try to start and if it won't boot replace it with the other. Is the computer beeping at you when you turn it on?