Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/ 2008-11-22T16:36:18-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2005-05-10T03:03:23-05:00 phil http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#273711 &lt;1.0% 90Hz to 20kHz (90dB, 1m) for their Signature 805. This is DAMN GOOD for an audio transducer, most speakers don't get close to these figures<br /> <br /> awww, now i feel extra special about these badboys ..! text/html 2005-05-09T01:45:51-05:00 Brendan Falvey http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#273327 Valid point but some claim to be able to detect the .001% distortion on amps so why not the improvement from the very expensive cables. Perhaps the security services could use them to detect noise signals buried in noise has been done but the bandwidth was very poor<br /> <br /> BTW the Emperors new clothes are what! text/html 2005-05-09T01:35:32-05:00 Longreef Pilot http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#273325 Ok, cables can make a difference, but the difference must be incredibly small when compared to the effect of your speakers (not to mention listening environment)!<br /> <br /> To all who are following this thread, what is the THD of your speakers?<br /> Chances are, many will have no idea. How many speaker manufacturers publish distortion figures for their speakers? Not many, because the figures would scare the bejesus out of us!<br /> <br /> B&amp;W (<a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.bwspeakers.com" target="_blank">http://www.bwspeakers.com</a>) is one such company that DOES publish distortion figures... &lt;1.0% 90Hz to 20kHz (90dB, 1m) for their Signature 805. This is DAMN GOOD for an audio transducer, most speakers don't get close to these figures. No one in there right mind would by a pre-amp or amp with that sort of distortion...<br /> All I am saying, is that there are vast inprovements to be made in the area of your speakers before you start spending thousands of dollars on cables for a minimal improvement.<br /> <br /> How do you improve your speakers?<br /> Take a look at <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.deqx.com" target="_blank">http://www.deqx.com</a> (does nearly everything) or even <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.tactlabs.com" target="_blank">http://www.tactlabs.com</a> (room corrections).<br /> <br /> My feeling is that spending our hard earned cash carefully will give us the best sound, faster and cheaper in the long run. Unless you have the ultimate $100k speakers and amps, $1000 interconnect cables aren't going to make too much difference. text/html 2005-04-21T18:55:18-05:00 Hitek146 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#267772 Exacltly, and well put, everyone!<br /> <br /> Monster Cables = Fairly decent, and not unreasonable.....<br /> <br /> $3500 &quot;insulated copper&quot; = What!?!?!?!?!?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> As said just before.... The &quot;loading&quot; resistor that is internally connected between the final output stages of your amplifier and the speaker terminals is not made of &quot;oxygen free copper&quot;, nor are any of the other components that make up the pre-amp and amplifier stages of a good amplifier unit, so if the people that engineered the unit didn't think OFC was necessary, why would an end user, unless an OFC cable manufacturer(etc.) made them think they should.....<br /> <br /> Hitek text/html 2005-04-20T23:04:24-05:00 Rory Witham http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#267505 AHH this is good I used to work in audio....<br /> Poor cable, the thin stuff in the box with the stuff works.. BUT thicker cables with thinner cores passes the signal better but dont forget its ampage and a low voltage thats acttually sent...<br /> <br /> Cables should be a good quality and fairly thick, but there is not need to go silly<br /> <br /> The higher the power of the amp and speaker the thicker the cable due to the useage of the cable.<br /> text/html 2005-04-20T22:51:53-05:00 OCGW http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#267499 Gee, I work for a living (not saying you guys don't), &amp; I consider Moster Cable to BE the cheap cable<br /> <br /> I would never spend hundreds, or thousands of $ on Kimber Cable<br /> <br /> Oh well, what other choice do we have? use the stuff that came in the box? Not I!<br /> <br /> IMHO<br /> <br /> OCGW<br /> <br /> PEACE text/html 2005-04-20T21:50:05-05:00 Brendan Falvey http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#267472 brian as indicated in my earlier post when this forum commenced I am no fan of monster cables. Your argument is fair but since most circuit boards are plated the quality of the copper is higher than most cable available. Ordinary cable made to a standard is going to have a conductance of about 95% of pure copper. I previously pointed out that the reality is the physics do not support the advertising hype for OFC.<br /> <br /> text/html 2005-04-20T13:47:09-05:00 brian D http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#267335 I have often wondered if the people that fool themselves into believing that fancy expensive cables make a difference have ever stopped to consider what is in the electronics circuitry in their audio equipment.<br /> <br /> The circuit boards have standard copper tracks - no fancy oxygen free stuff here<br /> <br /> The components have standard plated copper leads<br /> <br /> The components are soldered with standard tin/lead solder and intenal wiring is normally just standard copper wire and coax cable<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> text/html 2005-04-08T08:23:16-05:00 Bruce Bettridge http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#263193 Not as big a laugh as th boys and girls at the cable companies have about how much they charge you......construct a sentance from the following random words;<br /> <br /> OLD MONEY ROPE FOR.<br /> <br /> text/html 2005-04-08T04:28:12-05:00 OCGW http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#263166 Isn't it funny when you go over your &quot;tone-deaf&quot; friends house, &amp; he turns on his cheap, tinny, hollow, screachy stereo system (Bose cubes), &amp; he thinks it sounds &quot;sooooo gooood&quot;, (&quot;Man listen to this, this rocks dude&quot;), but you don't want to hurt their &quot;feelings&quot;<br /> <br /> ROTMFFLMFMAO<br /> <br /> OCGW<br /> <br /> PEACE text/html 2005-04-08T03:47:24-05:00 George King http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#263161 well all i can say is in the end everybody's ears are very different when it comes to hearing certain sounds... could be due to ear wax build up..... j/k but to be honest if you are happy with those cheap cables that come with your system... keep them who caaaaaares i mean as long as ur happy with the performance of your system then you are good... but just for laughs go try some &quot;premium&quot; cable i mean waht do you have to lose u get a 30 day money back guarantee... so if ur not happy take it back... for the few of us who love to listen to music we all know the truth............................................. text/html 2005-04-05T02:09:14-05:00 OCGW http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#262068 No, it isn't that one, have had mine for a few years, it isn't the touch screen, it's the reeeeal big one w/ programable buttons up each side of the screen (&amp; you type in the name for the buttons)<br /> <br /> Here is another example of spending way to much money, I have a $200USD Yamaha AM/FM Digital Synthesis PLL Tuner<br /> <br /> But I don't like it better than my Onkyo T-4 (circa. 1980 $200USD in 1980) ALL ANALOG Tuning AM/FM TUNER<br /> <br /> Edit: I even have Monster Cable feed from my comcast digital cable box to my ATI TV WONDER VE<br /> <br /> Hehehehe hehe hehehe<br /> <br /> OCGW<br /> <br /> PEACE text/html 2005-04-05T01:47:57-05:00 phil http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#262063 OCGW, nice reomote.. is that the rc9500?<br /> <br /> haven't used mine since running satilite signal over the network, and using ati's rf remote text/html 2005-04-04T23:03:54-05:00 OCGW http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#262014 To: Ian Yeoh, In my &quot;main theater&quot; (yes, I have (3) theaters) my rear towers (surround channel) have 50' of speaker wire feeding them, &amp; they sound great<br /> <br /> However, I run the 25' Monster subwoofer interconnect cable (&amp; Panamax power cables) to the rear for my Adcom 555 POWER AMP (325watt x 2 @ 4ohms) which feeds the &quot;twins&quot; (a pair of double 15&quot; Cerwin Vega monitors) which constitutes my bass channel<br /> <br /> Edit: I use Monster Cable, &amp; Panamax surge protection in all my music, &amp; cinema systems<br /> <br /> Hell the Panamax rack mount surge protector (w/ sequential startup) in my &quot;main theater&quot; costs $300USD<br /> <br /> &amp; my Marantz &quot;Big Screen&quot; learning remote costs $250USD, How about that for a waste of money?<br /> <br /> OCGW<br /> <br /> PEACE text/html 2005-04-04T10:50:02-05:00 Thermalfreak http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/41821/?o=60#261806 Howard Reynolds.....thats prob the only post thats made any true sense sofar and i have to agree....thats pretty much the best popst ive read sofar....<br /> <br /> Placebo or not...noise or not....10,000 dollar cables, warm or bright sounds......i think hes got apoint....if someone spends 1000 dollars on the cables alone for his A class stereophile system and really does appreciate it....then thats money well spent as far as its anyone's bussiness<br /> <br /> guess i was wrong...if someone's happy with what they have...why spam them that theyve spent too much/little on their stuff....its perfectly fine.....(works both ways btw)<br /> <br /> <br /> p.s. the freind who bought th uber bass earphones was a real happy guy afterwards...cuz his walkman doesnt have an equalizer anyway...