Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/ 2009-11-24T22:48:09-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/ /images/halogo.gif text/html 2005-10-14T00:53:07-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#336508 Oh yeah, and BTW, it's SO much quieter! The computer SCREAMED before, it was practically deafening, and now with the bios update the fan runs at a reasonable speed. Woot! text/html 2005-10-14T00:38:36-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#336504 Thanks for your reply.<br /> I'm back up! Ok that was scary...I updated my bios, restarted, and my HD came to a screeching halt and I got two beeps saying my CMOS settings are wrong.<br /> I tried recovering the BIOS but had the same thing happen. I couldn't seem to get it to boot in any way.<br /> I should have mentioned, I have two hard drives connected to a Maxtor Ultra ATA 133 card. Its bios runs before my MSI bios runs. The card came with the maxtor and said it was required for older OSes to recognize all 200 GB. Now though it may be unnecessary with XP.<br /> The MSI bios used to be award I think, but now it's AMI.<br /> Anyway when I boot the Maxtor detected the drives, but the new MSI bios didn't. I unplugged the drives from the ultra ATA card and plugged them directly into the mainboard, and the computer boots.<br /> I hadn't done this before for a couple reasons--one the mobo is ATA 100 and the card is 133, so I thought it might be faster. Two I didn't know if the mobo could handle the 200 GB drive. Having nothing else to lose I tried it and it boots now.<br /> I was still getting the &quot;CMOS settings are wrong&quot; error until I pulled the ATA card out completely. I also had to put the CD ROM in a boot order higher than the HD to boot back into the recovery console and renable mup and agp440. Now I've installed the chipset drivers for the 865PE and installed the ATI catalyst drivers. Wohoo!<br /> I have a couple questions though--will my drives still run fine without this card? I still see that &quot;APIC ACPI SCI IRQ&quot; setting in my bios and it's disabled...Should I enable it?<br /> Thanks everyone for all your help! Getting rid of the ATA card and flashing my bios seems to have done the trick.<br /> Jordan text/html 2005-10-13T23:07:47-05:00 Kieran B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#336453 I had a similar problem and so I uninstalled &quot;Microsoft ACPi Compliant System&quot; under System Devices in the Device Manager, it rebooted, it ask em to reinstall all my s**t, so i did it one by one and BAM!!, all fixed. Weird, but worked. text/html 2005-10-13T22:56:32-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#336443 Thanks so much for your help. I'm still having trouble--I can't get out of safe mode. When I try sfc /scannow I get the error &quot;The RPC server is unavailable.&quot;<br /> I have a Intel 865PE Chipset Hyperthreading P4 2.8 Ghz Processor. (That's not prescott, right? I'm hearing about a lot of problems with SP2 / prescott.) I have a MSI 865PE NEOF Mobo, and a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB.<br /> Usually importing a registry file allows me to boot again, however, it hasn't been working now and I'm stuck in safe mode. I was able to load BartPE with the right network and storage drivers but was still unable to update the registry that way (I got &quot;access denied&quot;).<br /> Before the most recent crash, I had installed my mobo drivers but not the chipset drivers. Next time I'll try the chipset first.<br /> My system was crashing on AGP440.SYS and MUP.SYS. I tried disabling those from the system recovery console but it still won't boot.<br /> I've been reading about how these problems can be caused by having the wrong &quot;HAL,&quot; or ACPI mode in the bios. My processor in device manager says it's a &quot;ACPI Multiprocessor PC.&quot;<br /> I guess my next step will be to see if there's a better BIOS I can flash to. After that if it doesn't work I'll try reinstalling windows again, then immediately installing the chipset and radeon drivers.<br /> Does this give anyone any clues to what's happening to my machine?<br /> Thanks, <br /> Jordan text/html 2005-09-30T23:03:28-05:00 angryhippy http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#330584 boot into safemode then run the system file checker. Start/Run/ &quot;sfc /scannow&quot; without the quotemarks. <br /> after you do that you will need to eventually reinstall all the updates, and/or servie packs, cause that will rebuild or replace any damaged or corrupted system files. You should be able to boot regular now. Reinstall your chipset drivers. Reboot. Go to<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&amp;task=knowledge&amp;folderID=293" target="_blank">https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&amp...lderID=293</a><br /> <br /> and run the Catalyst Uninstaller to remove all ATI drivers from your system. Then reinstall the drivers for the card. If that doesn't work post back with some system information. mobo? CPU? etc.<br /> <br /> Edit: ATIs site sucks. You can't link to a specific driver WTF is up with that? morons. Anyway go to the page the link opens. On the left click on utilities, then various. Then on the right side click on CATALYST - ATI Maintenance Utilities, and look for the uninstaller. As an afterthought you might want to try the uninstaller first, but after messing about with your AGP driver I suspect you will need to replace it when you load the chipset drivers<br /> text/html 2005-09-30T18:04:34-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#330475 bump--thanks text/html 2005-09-29T02:16:36-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#329599 Can anyone help me with this? My machine is still hosed after many months.<br /> I have a home made machine built from scratch and a formatted drive with newly installed windows XP. XP doesn't like to boot, especially after I install any updates and software. Every once in a while it does boot regularly and I save a system restore point.<br /> I enabled bootlogging and it seems to crash after loading AGP440.sys. I found a microsoft technote (<a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324764" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324764</a>) that suggested disabling the agp440.sys system file via the recovery console due to an incompatibility with some graphics cards. I have an ATI Radeon card without the drivers installed and this sounded like it could be the culprit, so I went ahead and followed the instructions to disable agp440.sys. The system booted fine afterwards, but I couldn't install the radeon because the software couldn't detect any displays (probably because agp440.sys was disabled.) I got the same error (before disabling agp440) when I tried (just for the hell of it) installing it in safe mode.<br /> Now my computer won't boot except in safe mode, so how am I supposed to install the driver? The error log seems to hang on random drivers, not just the agp440 now. Hardware tests show that everything (memory, hard drive, etc.) is working, so I think it's some driver, but I don't know what. I'm going to look for updated video card drivers, updated bioses, etc., but a point in the right direction would be helpful.<br /> Thanks,<br /> Jordan text/html 2005-08-02T05:37:30-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=40#307454 Yeah, just as I thought, system restore didn't do anything but importing my manual registry backup actually did. Now the machine runs fine as long as I don't run windows update. But now I'm running a security hole prone flakey OS. Hmm. Better get a good firewall and antivirus. Anyone know what hardware conflicts could be fighting with windows update? Thanks. text/html 2005-08-02T04:39:25-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#307446 Hello from Windows Safe Mode with networking support!<br /> I don't think Microsoft would hose your computer to try and prevent piracy. My XP's legit so it must be a hardware conflict.<br /> So I found the IT downloadable version of SP 2 and tried doing that instead of going through windows update, hoping I could skip the update that was screwing my computer. SP 2 installed fine and so I made restore points and backed up the registry, and then tried running windows update again...And I'm back to not being able to boot.<br /> Usually I make it past the initial reboot after the update to windows update itself and crash on the next 25 updates, this time I didn't even make it past the reboot after the update to the update. The &quot;system restore&quot; feature is neat but hasn't restored my machine. Anyone run into this problem?<br /> I'm going to update my BIOS, reinstall the graphics card software, the mobo software, and hope that one of these resolves whatever conflict I'm getting.<br /> I now hate that windows boot screen...I wish I knew what it was doing. I miss windows 98 where you could hit tab to make the pretty graphics disappear and watch it load the drivers in dos.<br /> I hate you XP. text/html 2005-08-01T05:43:18-05:00 McFly http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#307100 &quot;Microsoft has some sort of &quot;Genuine Windows&quot; checker now and they are pretty sneeky when it comes to updates.&quot;<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.extended64.com/blogs/rafael/archive/2005/07/27/1026.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.extended64.com/blogs/rafael/archive/2005/07/27/1026.aspx</a> &lt;&lt;&lt;<br /> text/html 2005-08-01T05:39:05-05:00 Alex Master http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#307099 lol i had same problem ....what a waste of time updating,....... i say if it works fine without updateing why do it,,,,,,, to get a head ache ill pass,,, i bought xp for 349 cdn n im very unhappy i cant install updates,,, i may as well be using a copyed version.... very mad. text/html 2005-08-01T05:12:01-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#307096 Thanks but I don't think it's the CD, I've used it before on my laptop and it worked fine.<br /> ...Maybe it was the updates? First I thought it was bad memory so I ran memtest on it, but the tests ran fine. Then I thought if the secondary drive was faulty maybe somehow it was interrupting the boot process, so I disconnected it, formatted the first drive again and installed XP again (for the 5th time). It booted fine, I installed the ethernet driver again, and then I ran the 25 updates microsoft recommended running...And now it hangs at boot time again. What else could it be? text/html 2005-07-28T10:05:36-05:00 angryhippy http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#305347 Go here and download the 6 XP install floppies. Use them to install the temporary installation files XP needs. After installing the floppies you will be prompted to continue the installation from the CD. Hopefully that will help. Also look at your CD. A speck of dirt or goop stuck on there that interferes with reading one little file can screw up the whole install. If you need to wash the CD very gently in some warm soapy water and blot dry it with a lint free towel. There are 3 different sets for XP Home and 3 for XP Pro. Original CDs SP1 CDs and SP2 CDs Make sure you use the correct set.<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310994#XSLTH4136121122120121120120" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310994...0121120120</a><br /> text/html 2005-07-28T06:34:11-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#305277 Well after trying to install XP a couple more times with a CD ROM drive, it failed in different places each time, so it must have some hardware issue. Ironically the hard drive I'm installing it to passed all diagnostics, but the other drive failed its own smart self test. Anyway I'm not sure what the hardware problems are but I've had crashes while formatting, booting the first time, and installing the updates, so it looks like a hardware problem. <img src="/images/smilies/smile2.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":(" title=":("> text/html 2005-07-27T05:00:48-05:00 Jordan B http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/46164/?o=20#304827 Dude. Windows updates hosed my machine. Just thought I'd share my similar experience.<br /> I tired installing XP over the weekend. First I tried an upgrade install from windows 2000. Afterwards Roxio easy media creator complained about trying to install components every time I tried doing anything, like even dragging a file anywhere, so I uninstalled it. That broke my CD-ROM drive. I tried to tweak the upperfilters / lowerfilters registry keys after reading up on how roxio can destroy your CD-ROM drivers but no luck.<br /> I tried networking with a mac using firewire to back up my data but IP over firewire never worked. Neither did the program firenet on mac or PC. I installed all of the windows updates at the same time and then it wouldn't boot, I thought it was the registry tweaking I was doing that broke it but a repair install of XP didn't work either. Finally I bought USB 2 housing for my hard drive and hooked it up and backed up to my new G5 as an external hard drive (Disk utility didn't work but toast did). I love my new G5 by the way.<br /> And yes, I had initial problems installing windows XP on my ultra ATA drive until I found the right floppy disk with the drivers on them. XP doesn't make it easy to install on large hard drives.<br /> I threw the hard drive back into my PC, formatted the drive, and installed XP for a third time. Then I made a mistake of installing all of the updates at once again. Now my PC won't boot again, with a fresh install and formmated hard drive. My copy is legit. Thanks a lot XP.