Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/ 2009-01-08T01:25:33-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2008-09-01T12:12:11-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#544263 Liquids that are non-conductive at low wattage/voltage can become conductive at higher voltages (110-240VAC). Additionally vegitable oil is one of those organics that I mentioned that are a no-no as they will break down and become conductive over time. Vegitable oils can be used in the short term, but almost never survive as a longterm solution. The breakdown from contamination can be slowed through the use of a closed airfree system (such as using a floating airshield such as sheet plastic), it is still more prone to thermal breakdown over time than the non-organic alternatives. Also keep in mind that a low viscosity/high circulation rate will be more efficient than a high viscosity/ low circulation rate in moving heat away from the components. text/html 2008-08-31T03:46:06-05:00 Meats_Of_Evil http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#544203 Whats wrong with submerging a PSU? I've seen it done using vegetable oil. text/html 2008-08-31T00:27:39-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#544199 DO NOT SUBMERSE your PSU!<br /> <br /> Everything else should be fine.<br /> You'll want your liquid to be non-organic, as organic oils will break down and leave residue that can be conductive or capacitive. text/html 2008-08-30T20:02:03-05:00 Sander Sassen http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#544193 Feasible? Yes, most certainly, I pioneered the idea almost ten years ago, have a look:<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reports/article.php/12093_3580756_1" target="_blank">http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reports/article..._3580756_1</a><br /> <br /> Cheers, text/html 2008-08-30T16:45:13-05:00 Paul Bruce http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#544189 It's definately possible. I don't think it's reasonable for non-enthusiasts or feasable for long-term computing. Until it is:<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://pbruce.blogspot.com/2008/08/computer-refrigerator-or-both.html" target="_blank">http://pbruce.blogspot.com/2008/08/computer-refrigerator-or-both.html</a> text/html 2005-09-12T14:06:56-05:00 Tim http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#322764 Yes. Yes he is. text/html 2005-09-01T00:11:46-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318840 does anyone know were you can get some R507 gas? and whats this about nonconductive liquid? are you talking about submerging the motherboard and everything else in this liquid? text/html 2005-08-31T23:29:29-05:00 Greg M http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318829 I see nothing wrong with putting one in a fridge as long as you keep it in a dry room, seal the opening the cables are coming in from, and dont open it unless the whole computer is room temp. Put your drives outside the fridge for easy access.<br /> <br /> Also, find some of that de-humidifier stuff that you get with shoes and other random things and put a small mound of that in, replacing it whenever it becomes saturated.<br /> <br /> As far as refidgerated water, you still have the same issues of condensation on the water blocks, and if your system is highly effective, behind the CPU.<br /> <br /> Another option would be put the computer in the fridge, submerged in a non-conductive liquid. Then condensation is not an issue. text/html 2005-08-31T23:13:41-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318827 yeah. i see that having multiple cords leading fom the compressor would be badass ass but then again no one else has anything to offer like that. i guess this would be more along the lines of some serious do it yourself projects. time to take apart my brothers mini fridge. text/html 2005-08-31T17:22:27-05:00 G. G. http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318696 now i havent seen one that has multiple chill cords from the compressor.<br /> <br /> take a look at some of these as a start. - <br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.asetek.com/" target="_blank">http://www.asetek.com/</a><br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/home.php?cat=194" target="_blank">http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/home.php?cat=194</a><br /> <br /> text/html 2005-08-31T16:28:31-05:00 Merc http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318674 In answer to your question the following link:<br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.pcchill.com/xcart/catalog/Prometeia_Mach_II_GT_with_blue_LCD_and_CPU_Kit_p_2.html" target="_blank">http://www.pcchill.com/xcart/catalog/Prometeia_Mach_II_GT_with...t_p_2.html</a><br /> text/html 2005-08-31T16:27:20-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318673 ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?<br /> <br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR<br /> l I<br /> / \ / I \ <br /> CPU GPU or GPU CPU GPU<br /> \ / \ l /<br /> l l<br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR text/html 2005-08-31T16:25:51-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318672 ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?<br /> <br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR<br /> l I<br /> / \ / I \ <br /> CPU GPU or GPU CPU GPU<br /> \ / \ l /<br /> l l<br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR text/html 2005-08-31T16:24:57-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318671 ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?<br /> <br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR<br /> l I<br /> / \ / I \ <br /> CPU GPU or GPU CPU GPU<br /> \ / \ l /<br /> l l<br /> COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR text/html 2005-08-31T04:18:06-05:00 G. G. http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/48318/#318485 dont do it. too much humidity will cause condensation and especially when you open the door just to peak inside. Go open your house refridge just for three seconds and see how fast the edge of the door, shelves, and stuff get condensated. Now just imagine that with your components. It doesnt take very long. It is like as soon as you open the door. How much condensation will always vary depending on the weather and environment ie house, land, etc..... Now I am saying this about all the components in the fridge.... BUT.......... if you were to do a water cooling system for the computer and put the pump, resoviour, and radiator in the fridge.... this would be great. If you want to know more about this type of setup then contact PCGeek because he has one of a dooozzzzieeee working.