Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/ 2008-07-24T11:28:57-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2005-12-19T22:28:43-05:00 Josh http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#360834 lol Blue, you were right. text/html 2005-12-19T22:23:05-05:00 Marcus Wells http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#360832 Andrzej Bania is a beezy and so is ATI &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;what a freakin baby text/html 2005-10-11T17:02:10-05:00 guru Shane http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335230 It might as well get locked, otherwise someone will find it on Google on a few months and it will go right back into the latest topics section. lol text/html 2005-10-11T16:54:40-05:00 Josh Butler http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335229 It happened yesterday to me, I've been out of the loop for a year on what happens on the intraweb. text/html 2005-10-11T16:35:02-05:00 4Qman http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335224 I back that, LOCK IT...... text/html 2005-10-11T16:29:22-05:00 Soul1601 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335222 2nd that. Lock the thread <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":P" title=":P"> text/html 2005-10-11T12:08:51-05:00 DublinGunner http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335093 Sander can we close this thread now.<br /> <br /> As far as I'm concerned this happened a long time ago now, and we dont need people posting like it happened yesterday. text/html 2005-10-11T12:06:32-05:00 Sander Sassen http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335091 Tom,<br /> <br /> If people didn't keep bringing this up every time, over and over again we'd already forgotten about it.<br /> <br /> Regards, text/html 2005-10-11T12:02:44-05:00 Tom Davies http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#335090 I don't understand how professionals can occasionally be so unprofessional. To both ATI and HWA, why are you doing this? You both are as stubborn as each other. Can’t you see that nobody is going to give way? Maybe it started off as a private quarrel, but now it’s become public to try and discredit the other party. I am not taking sides, but I will say that this is the most childish thing I have read about recently. I am not impressed with ATI’s response or HWA public condemnation. Both parties are behaving like children, pointing the finger at the other. My advice – drop it. Be humble and forget about it. Publicly apologise if necessary. That can show you in no bad light. I think it will do your attitude some good. At the end of the day you can’t win. What are you expecting at the end of all this? Are you really expecting ATI to publicly apologise to you, Sander? Be humble, pack this in, and then I will be on your side. text/html 2005-10-09T19:58:07-05:00 Josh Butler http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#334306 I haven't been around for about a year but ever since I registerred for this site Sander has been nothing but nice to myself, and the community in general. Its sad that ati dragged his name through the mud because of something as meaningless as this. text/html 2005-10-08T02:23:12-05:00 guru Shane http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#333732 &quot;Not to be libelous here, but it appears that Mikkel is a lawer/solicitor.&quot;<br /> <br /> I really doubt that anyone coming in to gripe about an article made in rebuttal to ATI's childish actions of posting e-mails across the Internet is a lawyer. This is just another case of some idiotic fan boy that hasn't read all of the facts coming in the forum with the specific intentions of throwing stones. That, in my opinion, is childish. text/html 2005-10-07T23:36:50-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#333694 Not to be libelous here, but it appears that Mikkel is a lawer/solicitor.<br /> <br /> Mikkel, you made detrimental statements against the founder of this site, then stated you didn't want to debate him on his responses....weak. You continue to post, and then bail out; again weak.<br /> <br /> I think that there were mistakes made on both sides of the HWA/Sander and ATI sides of the fence.<br /> I see nothing that Sander said as being slanderous or libelous.<br /> He stated his opinion with disclamers as to the origin or validity of the findings.<br /> He also stated the rational behind having to submit possibly invalid benchmarks.<br /> ATI (or their representative) chose to cut him and HWA out of the process due to mis-understandings.<br /> <br /> I don't think that Sander or ATI (through their representitives) are without fault, but to sign up on a site just to point blame at the owner, then bailing out is....weak.<br /> I hope you enjoy your ATI card, whatever generation it may be.<br /> <br /> If you wish to continue to discuss the differences between libel or slander, please go to a web site specific to this determination and your country's laws.<br /> <br /> If you wish to discuss the viability and capability of the new ATI X1K architecture or firmware or software, please continue to post; we all look forward to a new voice, but try to have one before you post.<br /> <br /> Gerritt text/html 2005-10-07T21:16:20-05:00 guru Shane http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#333655 Wow Charles, nice rig. Oh, did you write something else? LOL text/html 2005-10-07T03:21:19-05:00 Charles M. Dawson http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#333346 I've got a suggestion:<br /> <br /> To Sander, ATI, and forum members; GET OVER IT!<br /> <br /> Charles<br /> <br /> AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 (2.6 Ghz) (200X13)<br /> DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra D - N4D510-2 Bios<br /> EVGA 6800 Ultra 256 Meg PCI-e Video (Auto OC)<br /> OCZ PC3200 EL Platinum 2 Gig (2X1024) DIMMs (2-3-5-2,1T)<br /> USB to DB9 RS-232 Adapter (Kenwood TS-2000 Computer Control)<br /> SoundBlaster Audio/Modem (Ham Radio Digital Signal Processor)<br /> 2X Western Digital 74 Gig Raptor SATA Drives (Boot, RAID 0)<br /> AEA PK232MBX (Dedicated Packet Radio TNC) on Serial Port<br /> Seagate 100 Gig Barracuda IDE Drive (DATA)<br /> Seagate 200 Gig Barracuda IDE Drive (DATA)<br /> Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case (Black)<br /> Thermaltake Silent Boost Cooler (Copper)<br /> Thermaltake Silent Power 680 Watt PSU<br /> 2X Ultra 1000 VA 600 Watt AVR UPS<br /> Windows XP Pro - XP Home - SP2<br /> NEC DVD+/-RW DL ND-3520A<br /> Samsung 900DF CRT Monitor<br /> Asus CD-S480/AH CDROM<br /> Asus 3.5 In. FDD<br /> 2X USB HDDs text/html 2005-10-06T16:53:24-05:00 Soul1601 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/49061/?l=1#333093 Far as I know this post was setup to discuss the reply Mr. Sassen gave to ATI, and not to attack and flame eachother. I think Mr. Sassen has made it clear, these forums are not ment for that. I think both of you have drifted far enough off topic, that if you feel the need to continue to use PMs to continue the discussion. It gets real boring reading over your posts an seeing the same thing over and over again. <br /> <br /> an Yes I do see that you are discussing ideas of the matter, but your both trying your hardest to be the one who is 'right'. You both can hold you views, Do either of you think draggin it out anymore is going to change anything? Probably not.