Hardware Analysis - Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

SombaSan — 2007-07-10T21:27:57-05:00

I have ubuntu running on one of my systems its very nice indeed, I've had it for a little over a year and a half, one thing I like most is implementation of BERYL very useful tool and efficient for my needs. I wouldn't be surprised if Ubuntu took over mainstream OS for computers to come.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

JOE HADDON — 2007-06-26T03:20:13-05:00

I am surprised no one has mentioned the utility called Automatix for Ubuntu. Automatix adds a great deal of functionality to Ubuntu. It is available for download by searching for the product.

My next challenge is to set up Vista to run Ubuntu in a VMware window. I use Windows to run games and Ubuntu for everything else.

Intel E6600 CPU, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB disk, 7600GT video card ,Antec 900 case

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Steve Vickers — 2007-06-18T20:09:35-05:00

WOW...having been out of the computer scene for some time with school, this software looks pretty exciting.

Now my question is: Will this software run with 3rd party apps such as autocad and solid works, and if not is there plans to do so???

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

carl 0ski — 2007-05-14T00:53:48-05:00

Hi
i've been using ubuntu 6.10 on my laptop for a year or two.

I started fresh with the latest Ubuntu 7.04when it was released.

and to put it lightly it is a hell lot easier to get working these days.
The first greavance people have is no MP3 support out the box
"doesn't seem so foolish since MS $1.53B lawsuit over MP3 support in WIndows"

i used to have to install MP3 DVB-T , DVD support All seperately and often using command line a fairly recent addition takes that away.
Click. Install. Enjoy.
http://www.getautomatix.com/
http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/...y_i386.deb

If anyone needs wireless support there would be quite a few new additional wireless adapters supported in the new linux kernel used in Ubuntu 7.04
if it still isn't support you may use ndiswrapper (use automatix to install it)
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Windo...wrapper.29

If you can think of something you may need have a quick look here
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty

P.S those using VMWare may want to give
Crossover Office a chance
version 6 is available in automatix and it works very well with IE World Of Warcraft & Lotus notes.
Also VirtualBox and VMware can of course be installed with two clicks.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

dark41 — 2007-05-07T05:47:43-05:00

Running from the CD is a little too slow for my tastes. I tried installing to a Intel DP965LT motherboard system, but it couldn't find the DVD Rom for installation. Installed nicely to my Gigabyte system and is now running as dual boot with Vista on a separate hard drive.

Linux has come a long ways since I've used it much. Now to search for all the apps (chat, AV, anti-spyware, anti-spam, etc..) that I depend upon daily. Quite a project, but a nice change of pace. I spent nearly an hour trying to decide upon a screen saver.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Gerritt — 2007-05-03T02:42:06-05:00

I have nothing more to say than "GO FOR IT".
If you don't you can't learn.
Good Luck, and I hope you can secure ALL of your systems.

Gerritt

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Carl Martin — 2007-05-03T02:38:35-05:00

Thanks for the article, Sander! I was the final push I needed to give Ubuntu a try. I've got a lot to learn, but want to use it for a few months before I decide whether or not to keep it or go back to XP. A few impressions.

- Installation was unbelievably fast, only 13 minutes.
- Boot ups are about 1/3 faster than XP.
- Great selection of software included, lots more available.
- 64 bit apps. work!
- Installing software is still a bit confusing.
- Big learning curve. (Have to remind myself that I've spend 12 years learning Windows.)

Hope this works out.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Josh — 2007-05-02T21:25:13-05:00

There's one reason I haven't gone with linux. Drivers. I have a wireless card, and as of yet, have not found a linux driver for it.
Does anyone know a good place for tons of linux drivers?

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Bitmap — 2007-05-02T20:58:57-05:00

Stuart Krivis said:

Bobby Phillipps said:

Robyn Hahn said:

McFly said:

Bobby Phillipps Apr 26, 2007, 10:06am EDT
The only thing that may really set a few people off is installing new software.

I don't know why that would upset people. Package managers like Ubuntu's Synaptic (apt frontend) and Fedora's Pirut (yum/rpm frontend) make installing and updating software packages oh so easy. Much easier than Windows, since it lets you update third-party software (such as Firefox) as well.

What you forgot to mention is when and if you decide you don't want that program after all, Synaptic will *completely* remove all traces - how many times have I uninstalled stuff in Windows only to find the folder lives on in Program Files, the icon and menu references stick to my system with dogged determination, not to mention the all the references to that app in the Registry. No wonder the computer goes slower and slower. Yes, there are registry cleaners, and you can always delete the folder and menu entries, but it's an extra thing to do. I guess it's what you're used to.

Not to mention that there are a lot of third party extensions for some of the free software that comes with Linux. Sure, Firefox can install its own extensions like no one's business, but when you get to installing new languages into an IDE, (integrated development environment) amongst other programs, then you start to get into some heavy duty manual configuration, something the average user probably doesn't want to get into.

Does this even apply to the "average user?" I wouldn't say that installing new languages into an IDE is something the "average user" is going to be doing.

There are always going to be tasks that are more than the "average user" wants to get into, but that applies to any OS and the software running on it.

Synaptic will do what the "average user" wants, and also works for more advanced users. It strikes me as a rather good frontend to a very powerful system (.deb package format, dpkg, apt, the package repositories, etc.)

I had a workstation on my desk at a previous job that went through a few Debian releases via upgrades. I installed and uninstalled a ton of software over the years and there still wasn't much cruft left over. It ran until the power supply died, about 7 years later, and never needed a re-install of the OS. I attribute that to the Debian package system.

For the record, I was citing a personal experience I had with Linux, and I'm damn sure there are other programs where installing a third party plug-in is more than a hassle.

The version of Ubuntu I was using at the time (6.06 Dapper Drake) had a package that would install the Synaptics software. Oddly, it didn't work, though. *shrugs*

Who knows, maybe it just didn't install correctly.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Sander Sassen — 2007-05-02T19:21:59-05:00

Dell just upped the ante, by offering Ubuntu (among others) as a preinstalled OS on Dell PCs.

Ideas in action
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideas...&s=gen

Best regards,

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

john albrich — 2007-05-01T06:20:16-05:00

Don't have to download, free Ubuntu copies are available.

I scanned thru the other comments and didn't see this, but the article failed to mention that if you can't download the programs, or it'll take too much time cause you have a 56kbps modem or something, you can supposedly request a FREE copy thru Canonical Services. I've not done this myself, so don't know the specifics of how it works. The Canonical site is http://www.canonical.com/

I might add that even if you have a fast connection, it can take a long time to download the ~700MB file(s) My downloads from the ubuntu site often start at >1000KB/sec (with an estimated download time of under 20minutes) and within 10 seconds the download degenerates to about 80KB/sec with a download time over 2 hours.

As of 20070430: http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu
"Ubuntu ships as an ISO image that fits on a single CD or alternatively, in the case of the older version, Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS, and just released Feisty Fawn 7.04,[13] mailed free to anyone requesting them via Canonical's ShipIt service.[14] This is intended to reduce the amount of time it takes to download Ubuntu and the possibility of losing part of the installation software and/or to aid those users who are not comfortable/able to burn an ISO image to CD."

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Stuart K — 2007-04-30T16:55:10-05:00

Bobby Phillipps said:

Robyn Hahn said:

McFly said:

Bobby Phillipps Apr 26, 2007, 10:06am EDT
The only thing that may really set a few people off is installing new software.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Bitmap — 2007-04-30T15:31:46-05:00

Robyn Hahn said:

McFly said:

Bobby Phillipps Apr 26, 2007, 10:06am EDT
The only thing that may really set a few people off is installing new software.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Stuart K — 2007-04-30T15:22:52-05:00

Big Beavis said:

Gerritt said:

The only way through this device is through mis-configuration

That's a pretty bold statement. Without access to the source code, how could you be sure of it?

(Edit - for the record, I'm not asking this question to be a smartass. I think it's a very important angle to consider - along with, as you mentioned, the downsides to allowing everyone access to the source)

But Cisco says it's completely secure...

PIXes are ok for small companies, but they're horrible once you get to enterprise level and need to manage a large network.

I also don't think that the PIX is any better than any number of open source alternatives. OpenBSD, for instance, makes for a very robust firewall and it has a better security record.

I tend to point people towards Astaro or Checkpoint FW1 if they don't feel OpenBSD is suitable for whatever reason. Both are also available on an appliance-type platform like the PIX is.

Re: Re: Ubuntu here, Ubuntu there, Ubuntu everywhere?

Stuart K — 2007-04-30T15:11:36-05:00

Robyn Hahn said:

McFly said:

You guys, if you're unwilling to edit a config file to use while using Linux, you're better off using Windows.

Actually, if you remember from older versions of Windows, a lot that you now do in the Registry you *used* to do in .ini files. Wasn't that a bit like opening .conf files in Linux is now-a-days?

To some extent, although Windows 1, 2, and 3.x had a tendency for everything to get stuffed into one main win.ini file and that lead to a lot of problems. (Which is one of the reasons why MS moved to a binary "registry" later on.)

You can argue the worth of flat files or a binary database file either way. However, flat (text) files often make it easier to get things working again in case of a disaster since you don't need anything fancy to work on them.