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        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>So what max OC do u think i could get on a E6550 and a E7550? is there  much difference between there average OC? thanks for your help &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:)&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/68486/?l=1#508228</link>
        <description>Or just get a E6850 3.0ghz.... and call it a day and you dont have to OC at all.... hehehe</description>
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        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>You'll easily hit 3ghz on ANY E6xxx </description>
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        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>Would buying a ntel Core 2 Duo E6750 be a safer bet to hit 3.0+ Ghz? As  its only £15 more?</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-09-01T23:43:52-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>vulcan raven</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/68486/?l=1#508212</link>
        <description>SBD said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;ok thats not the news i wanted to hear &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile2.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:(&quot; title=&quot;:(&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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so if  i was to get a Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 what sort of overclock should i be able to get. Does anyone know ifthe stepping  on these ara any good?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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it seems this particular stepping (E0) isnt too bad at all..........&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-2287-view-Core-2-Duo-e6550-overclocking.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-2287-view-Core-2-Duo-e6550-o...cking.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-09-01T23:35:45-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>ok thats not the news i wanted to hear &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile2.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:(&quot; title=&quot;:(&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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so if  i was to get a Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 what sort of overclock should i be able to get. Does anyone know ifthe stepping  on these ara any good?</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-09-01T18:07:04-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>vulcan raven</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>SBD said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;vulcan raven where did u find out that the E4400 chips are crap for OCin i cant seem to find anything on them &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile6.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:~&quot; title=&quot;:~&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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i actually read it on a site first, then a friend had already purchased a new e4400 last month and i found out first hand. the newer e6600s can be the same- new steppings are poorer overclockers.&lt;br /&gt;
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here was one notice: &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=642&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=642&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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fought with this friends e4400 for a few hours, most i got was 2.67ghz with a zalman 9700 and as many volts as you like. it wasnt completely stable until lowered to around 2.5ghz either. at those speeds it barely beats out an e6420. compared to earlier steppings busting past 3ghz its very very disappointing</description>
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        <dc:creator>DublinGunner</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>The cores on E6xxx are much better and binned higher than the 800fsb E4xxx allendales.&lt;br /&gt;
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Plus, you will see the performance benefit of the extra cache, as well as parts that will clock higher</description>
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        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>Ok so i have the ram and motherboard sorted.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile4.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;;)&quot; title=&quot;;)&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the only difference between Allendale core and the Conroe core was the size in the cashe so this would lead me to believe that the Allendale will OC more because more cashe = more heat correct?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also  from what i have seen between E6*** and E4*** there is not much between them  in game performance. So this would mean that teh E4*** are the perfect overclockers? &lt;br /&gt;
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just asking as the E4*** have much higher multipliers thus easier to OC &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile3.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:D&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-08-31T15:01:00-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>DublinGunner</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>Get the geil ram out of those 2 sets for starters.&lt;br /&gt;
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That mobo is pretty good, go for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also wouldnt go for the E4400, go for an E6xxx instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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Get this:&lt;br /&gt;
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E6550 £115.14 inc VAT&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-158-IN&amp;amp;groupid=701&amp;amp;catid=6&amp;amp;subcat=793&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-158-IN...subcat=793&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-08-31T14:16:18-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>vulcan raven where did u find out that the E4400 chips are crap for OCin i cant seem to find anything on them &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile6.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:~&quot; title=&quot;:~&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-08-30T22:22:34-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>bump &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:P&quot; title=&quot;:P&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-08-30T15:58:30-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/68486/?l=1#507818</link>
        <description>ah well thats really not good to hear so which cpus are the best to get for overclocking? really cba to find and old one lol &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:P&quot; title=&quot;:P&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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thanks for the heads up!</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-08-30T15:26:54-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>vulcan raven</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>you dont want a new e4400. poor overclockers compared to older steppings or the old e4300s. if your intention is to overclock, AVOID the e4400 unless you know how old it is. some of them struggle to pass 2.6ghz whatever cooling or voltage you throw at them. whereas the older chips could breeze past 3ghz on air without worry</description>
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        <dc:creator>SBD</dc:creator>
        <title>Another Upgrade thread :P</title>
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        <description>As above i want to upgrade from my current rig. I play alot of FPS games such as half life 2 and BF2 ect and also WoW &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:P&quot; title=&quot;:P&quot;&gt; Since i got a new monitor (22&amp;quot; wide screen &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile3.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:D&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot;&gt;) my games are lagging a bit and the fps are not above 40 on BF2.&lt;br /&gt;
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So what i am going to do is upgrade most of my system but leave the GPU as it is cos i need to RMA it, so with a little luck i may get a free upgrade on that part &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:P&quot; title=&quot;:P&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm thinking of going for these just need a few  ppl to give me the go a head and ill buy em  &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile4.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;;)&quot; title=&quot;;)&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Gigabyte GA_P35_DS4                                                                            £111.61 	&lt;br /&gt;
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Intel Core 2 Duo E4400                                                                             £82.24&lt;br /&gt;
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Crucial Ballistix 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Dual Channel Kit              £66.96&lt;br /&gt;
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Or&lt;br /&gt;
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GeIL 2GB PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit     £58.74&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasnt sure which ram to go for so a little help would be nice and yes i will be overclocking to near melting point lol i have around £300-£400 to spend i tend to use &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.overclockers.co.uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.overclockers.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; so that may help you with pricing &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile3.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:D&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that motherboard any good for OCin?&lt;br /&gt;
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Will i see a major proformace increase in the games i play?  &lt;br /&gt;
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Below is my current rig:</description>
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