Hardware Analysis - iPhone oMg

Re: iPhone oMg

Duncan Bladen — 2008-04-28T14:29:31-05:00

i had an orange [htc] spv c600 18 months ago , that had windows mobile , and most of the i phone features , cept touch screen , wish i had kept it . on the touch screens - my friend has had 3 k850i , returned cos of faulty screens in 3 months

Re: iPhone oMg

DublinGunner — 2007-11-13T15:04:13-05:00

May I condense your post??

It looks good, but its crap compared to most other phones

Re: iPhone oMg

_MD_ — 2007-11-13T14:55:24-05:00

Before you buy, just keep in mind:

1. Bluetooth works only with accessories. Forget about BT file transfer.
2. No file manager. All data is organized within supplied applications (ibreak)
3. Camera ... Camera leaves much to be desired
4. SIM card can hardly be taken out
5. Web-browser manages to be slow even on a WLAN connection. Simple websites and web applications opening in at least 20seconds. No copy & paste, can't save pictures from the web. A plus might be the presence of tabs (which nonetheless tries to "hang" too on every available occasion) Browser is the only application where keyboard works in the widescreen mode.
6. Virtual keyboard is not that great either. Can't "blind" type with one hand.
7. Can only attach one picture to an email.
8. Can not use your own ringtones.
9. Absolutely no games (due to the absence of java and flash)
10. No changeable battery (remember iPod?)
11. No speeddial
12. No video;
13. No MMS;
I'm just repeating myself here

But after all said and done, I gotta agree with A_Pickle in

It really is a revolutionary piece of technology though -- and you're not a sheep for going out and getting one. Apple has done something new in the telecommunications industry: They've innovated. They've come out with something different, better, and revolutionary.

That it is true. But lacking way too many of the modern hi-tech feats. (Although they are in no way innovative nor revolutionary - touch screens were used many many years before. Their dual-sensing displays manufactured by Samsung were invented and applied long time ago too) But it started a fashion wave that now every mobile developer tries to imitate (so called iPhone killers) OR at least have the same concept of fully touch screen display with virtual keyboard but with many added tech features. I for one, never owned an apple product in my life... But it is targeted for the general public who could care less about the newest hi-tech feats but rather their ego and the right to say now I'm cool too because I own an apple product motivates them to make Apple $800 richer.

Re: iPhone oMg

adam — 2007-11-13T09:22:40-05:00

The Iphone send text, Picture , emails , blue tooth enabled Wyfi enabled and a lot more. Cool idea just lacks the memory I would want.

Re: iPhone oMg

A_Pickle — 2007-11-13T09:06:14-05:00

Yes... it can. I have no idea where you got the idea that it can't. And all of the texts are kept in their separate conversations for organization.

Re: iPhone oMg

Kieran Blenkarne — 2007-11-13T08:50:21-05:00

The iPhone can not even send a text message....a basic function of any mobile phone.

Re: iPhone oMg

DublinGunner — 2007-11-12T23:04:04-05:00

A_Pickle said:

Huh??? I dont know what type of mobiles you've been using. But I can add music by simply blue-toothing them over, or via the included data cable (USB) or even have them sent via multimedia message using, guess what?? Yep, 3G. (in fact, I've had different 3G mobiles for around 3 years now)

I'm not sure I even want a 'customisable OS' in my phone............

I don't want a phone with a bunch of features in it -- I want the ability to add features. I want to be able to read Microsoft Word/Powerpoint/Excel documents, and conduct simple edits to them. I want to be able to read and do form-fill on Adobe PDF's. I want to be able to read my e-mails, and sync my contacts to my Windows Vista Contacts. And I want a phone that lasts longer than 20 minutes while surfing the web.

My N70 does ALL of that.

Admit it, its a fancy pants, un-needed feature thats obviously an added expense just to look nice.

BTW, I can look at my pics landscape if I want......

But my contact list? It'd be far more efficient to have that to be taller than it is wide, so I'd use it that way.

Personla opinion I guess, I prefer mine portrait

I guess you're right. It's much better to have a static, rigid interface that doesn't conform to my needs. Good thing I'm not left-handed.

Yeah, those right handed phones are a pain..................

DublinGunner
BTW - exactly who is going to leave you visual voicemail? And what providers support the feature? And can it be sent from another mobile phone?

Visual voicemail is a bad Apple marketing term for a much more beautiful thing. It has nothing to do with video voicemails or video calls... and everything to do with being able to play back voicemails however and whenever you want. No more waiting for the stupid robot lady to get done with her oratory speech, "You - Have - One - New - Voicemail... First - New - Voicemail... Received - on - Tuesday, October - 14th - at Nine - Oh - Four AM - from - "Mark Smith,"..." and finally you get to hear what Mark says
The iPhone has a nice list, like a list of e-mails, but they're voicemails. And, rather than in the voicemail, the information of who left it and when they left it is displayed onscreen. So you just pick and choose what voicemail to listen to, when.

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So either A) your mails are stored on your phone, (in other words an answering machine, how beautiful......), or B) its network specific. Either way - a bit useless. The extra 2 seconds doesnt really bother me....

Knowing Apple, I highly doubt that.

Ah yes, because as they've shown so far, they like to include everything

Re: iPhone oMg

Adam Kolak — 2007-11-12T22:16:26-05:00

Bobby Phillipps said:

LG's VX10000 The iPhone Killer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlYYZAII2f8

I'll be getting a new phone in September 2008, when my contract is up, so I'll probably get that, or, if they've upgraded again, the next model up (VX11000?)

I have the VX9800, and I love it.

If it ran Windows Mobile 6, I would get it in a minute (I currently have Verizon Wireless).

edit: Holy crap, it has another screen in the inside...damn

Re: iPhone oMg

Bitmap — 2007-11-12T20:47:38-05:00

Re: iPhone oMg

_MD_ — 2007-11-12T20:03:08-05:00

Tam-the-Bam said:

I love my Nokia N95!!!!

Welcome to the club... =))))

Re: iPhone oMg

Tam the Bam — 2007-11-12T19:33:57-05:00

Oh so is Apple doing this non replacable battery the same way as iPods?!
That's well bad. Bit of a scam. I love my Nokia N95!!!!

Re: iPhone oMg

john albrich — 2007-11-12T19:19:38-05:00

A_Pickle said:

...particularly given that most people don't use more than one expansion card, the largest of which are up to 4 GB now....

I've seen 8GB cards for under $100, and memory card tech is just going to increase capacity very quickly.

I believe once the video phone capability is provided, the lack of a replaceable battery is going to be a big problem. Not only will the user be unable to change the battery in the field, but it will cause increased re-charging frequency which will shorten the life of the lithium cell. Lithium cells do have a finite number of recharge cycles, and generally last even shorter the more you deplete them before recharging.

Re: iPhone oMg

A_Pickle — 2007-11-12T18:05:08-05:00

DublinGunner
You seem to be stuck on this idea of 'Windows Mobile' when very few people in this thread have even mentioned it.

Simply compare the iPhone to most modern mobile's and you'll see the shortfalls.

Largely because, non-Palm/Windows Mobile/Blackberry phones... are terrible. Call me crazy, but I hate phones with a propriety, unsupported, non-customizeable OS. That's... just about any phone that isn't Palm, Windows Mobile, or Blackberry. No way to add applications that aren't free, no way to add music without V-Cast or similar proprietary stores... the "typical phone" these days... sucks. In America, anyways.

I don't want a phone with a bunch of features in it -- I want the ability to add features. I want to be able to read Microsoft Word/Powerpoint/Excel documents, and conduct simple edits to them. I want to be able to read and do form-fill on Adobe PDF's. I want to be able to read my e-mails, and sync my contacts to my Windows Vista Contacts. And I want a phone that lasts longer than 20 minutes while surfing the web.

I realize that there aren't many ways to customize an iPhone... yet. But I have no doubt in my mind that an iPhone SDK is in the works.

DublinGunner
Also, screen orientation. Yep. I can see the benefits should I pick my phone up upside down. I have my own solution for this - turn the phone around the right way, its a free feature of most phones these days.

Suit yourself. I'd rather surf the web in landscape view on a mobile device, but I suppose rather than accommodate me, I should be forced to view web pages like I'm reading a scroll. Or maybe I'd like to watch a video landscape-wise, so it accomodates the majority of screenspace. Or I'd like to view pictures that way too... possibly because that's the way my computer is.

But my contact list? It'd be far more efficient to have that to be taller than it is wide, so I'd use it that way.

I guess you're right. It's much better to have a static, rigid interface that doesn't conform to my needs. Good thing I'm not left-handed.

DublinGunner
BTW - exactly who is going to leave you visual voicemail? And what providers support the feature? And can it be sent from another mobile phone?

Visual voicemail is a bad Apple marketing term for a much more beautiful thing. It has nothing to do with video voicemails or video calls... and everything to do with being able to play back voicemails however and whenever you want. No more waiting for the stupid robot lady to get done with her oratory speech, "You - Have - One - New - Voicemail... First - New - Voicemail... Received - on - Tuesday, October - 14th - at Nine - Oh - Four AM - from - "Mark Smith,"..." and finally you get to hear what Mark says.

The iPhone has a nice list, like a list of e-mails, but they're voicemails. And, rather than in the voicemail, the information of who left it and when they left it is displayed onscreen. So you just pick and choose what voicemail to listen to, when.

_MD_
And what about a little older devices that are lacking bluetooth or wifi support, how would you share files/contacts with them?

Probably from the dock, which has a USB cable...

_MD_
Yeah and of course they will come out with 3G support in later versions, but by the time they will, there will tons of other features that iphone will be missing.

Knowing Apple, I highly doubt that.

Re: iPhone oMg

_MD_ — 2007-11-12T17:33:46-05:00

Tam, it redirects to http://jurmo.us/images/dontsteal.jpg ...

Re: iPhone oMg

Tam the Bam — 2007-11-12T17:22:52-05:00

Well i'd rather have this MOBILE: http://jurmo.us/log/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/1993-202compact.jpg It's about as mobile as you can get! And to be honest, it does what
a mobile's supposed to do. MAKE CALLS! Nothing more!

Plus this mobile will keep you fit as it weighs about 10kg, and will give you a huge
muscular left arm!