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        <dc:date>2007-12-14T18:58:18-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#522333</link>
        <description>OK...thanks, I did wonder about that...&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll give it a go (probably get some cr@p score and want to rush out 'n' buy another card!!!)</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-12-14T17:19:19-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>DublinGunner</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#522320</link>
        <description>Use '06, '05 is redundant</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-12-14T16:44:21-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#522315</link>
        <description>Just installed the HD 3850 and finally able to play Crysis without stuttering / crashing every 5 mins! &lt;img src=&quot;/images/smilies/smile8.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:_)&quot; title=&quot;:_)&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you ATI!!!! Nice piece of hardware for a good price.....  &lt;img src=&quot;/images/smilies/smile4.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;;)&quot; title=&quot;;)&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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One strange thing though...I can't seem to run 3DMark 05...it just freezes and says it has to close. Shame, I'd like to see the score compared to my old 1950pro. The same happens when I try to run PCMark 05...not sure why as they used to work before installing the new card. &lt;img src=&quot;/images/smilies/smile16.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:/&quot; title=&quot;:/&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-12-11T01:37:08-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>varun rao</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#521893</link>
        <description>woah ! that is good stuff...... and for so cheap too !.</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-12-10T20:41:05-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#521853</link>
        <description>I've just ordered a Sapphire 3850 from Dabs UK for £100 to replace my 1950 pro...looking at benchmarks I reckon I should get about 30% more performance...fingers crossed....</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-19T13:32:28-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>FordGT90Concept</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
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        <description>Hmm, 3850 is good bang for the buck but far from stealing any performance crowns.  I figure 3870 isn't much different but will probably throw bang/buck out the window.</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-18T18:47:21-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>angryhippy</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#519544</link>
        <description>OK gee, a bunch of graphs from AMD. Great. Doesn't say much. How about a heads up against the 2900xt, 2600xt, the 8800GT 8800GTS and the 8600GTS. So ya here we go. Some REAL comparisons. Being an nVidia user I must say it does look like the 3850 does have some good bang for the buck. But as usual nobody seems to really have what you'ld call hard facts on any of the DX10 aspects of anybodys cards.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2217044,00.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2217044,00.asp&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-18T18:12:03-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dave I</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/?o=20#519542</link>
        <description>Hexus.net had this up on Friday, it only has HD 3870 though.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-18T16:50:15-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Mike L.</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/#519529</link>
        <description>Let me save all of you the trouble by saying that they're only &lt;i&gt;graphs&lt;/i&gt;. When there's a review out there - by a trusted site mind you - showing what the card actually looks like with some tangible results, then we can all pass judegment. </description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T19:39:03-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Sean Costello</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
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        <description>the supposedly have the 3900s coming out sometime too, or was it 3890, i forget, damn numbers.</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T19:22:40-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>G. G.</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
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        <description>Sean Costello said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;yeah i was looking on &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.chiphell.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.chiphell.com&lt;/a&gt; and they had a chart that said the 3870 is supposed to be the 2600XT and the 3850 is supposed to eb the 2600pro.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That can't be right at all.... because the 8800GT slams the 2600XT/2600pro.  nah....  I think the 3870/50 is the replacement for the 2900XT and that ATI will need to come up with something faster above the 3870/50 to compete with the GTX/Ultra lines....&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T18:06:12-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Sean Costello</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/#518639</link>
        <description>yeah i was looking on &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.chiphell.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.chiphell.com&lt;/a&gt; and they had a chart that said the 3870 is supposed to be the 2600XT and the 3850 is supposed to eb the 2600pro.</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T17:33:16-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Meats_Of_Evil</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69486/#518635</link>
        <description>&amp;quot;The 3850, which should be less than $200USD when it is released later this month, completely slaughters the intended competition, which includes the &lt;b&gt;HD 2600XT&lt;/b&gt;, and the NVIDIA GeForce &lt;b&gt;8600GTS.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T17:05:46-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>G. G.</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
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        <description>from looking at this preliminary results.... it does look like the HD3870 is going to be the comparable card to the 8800GT being that it will be, or seems to be, about 95% of a 8800GT in performance. Now all they have to do is set the pricing for this card correctly.  To do this, the 3870 needs to be lower in price by 10%  than a 8800GT. Right now the 8800GT goes for around $290.00 all due to demand... (the original release pricing was supposed to be around 200~250.00). The 8800GT will most likely go down to that price range as soon as the newer HD3870 are released. But guess we will have to see. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;From 3Dmark06 and Crysis, it looks like nVidia 8800GT is better than HD3870. However, there is one thing we need to tell you&lt;br /&gt;
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We found ATi HD3870 is actually has better picture process while Crysis benching. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specially the light refraction from water, HD3870 is very smooth but 8800GT is not. It is around frame 500 to 1000.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you have chance, compare it. You will know what are we talking about.&lt;br /&gt;
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The price for ATi HD3870 we are not sure yet, but it should be less than 8800GT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not only that, CF can do on P35, X38, 965, and 975 those motherboard as long as there are 2 PCI-E slot.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://iax-tech.com/video/3870/38704.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://iax-tech.com/video/3870/38704.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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We'll.... there is one thing I need to tell him.....&lt;br /&gt;
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If he had looked closer at the two pictures used for comparison..... the HD3870 does not look better than the 8800GT.... I am not saying that the HD3870 looks worse... what I am saying is that it looks &amp;quot;different&amp;quot;.....&lt;br /&gt;
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here is my reason: in Crysis DX10.... does it not supposed to do lighting, clouds, fog, and so forth better than DX9 ??????    Well.... when you look at the 8800GT's picture... I see high altitude cloud/fog/mist affect.... which in turn would affect the ground view of the greenery, water, sand, and so forth... The reason in the HD3870 picture &amp;quot;seems&amp;quot; clearer is because there is NO cloud/fog/mist affect in the way at that altitude to change the view at ground level..... DUHHHHHH..... Maybe the HD3870 could not reproduce this effect and hence it was missing from the scene?????   So without the cloud/fog/mist effect being displayed.... then your scenery will be different....&lt;br /&gt;
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And this statement &amp;quot;Not only that, CF can do on P35, X38, 965, and 975 those motherboard as long as there are 2 PCI-E slot&amp;quot; ----  which is stupid in itself...  Well DUHHHHHHH we all know you can't (officially) run SLi in those chipset mentioned !!!!   It be like saying - Not only that, SLi can do on nVidia's SLi chipsets, those motherboards as long as there are 2 PCI-E slot.... What is he trying to imply???? that you cant run a 8800GT on a P35/X38/965/975 in SLI mode??????  NO CRAP....&lt;br /&gt;
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The other thing about the results of the graphs when it comes to displaying the CF results along with the HD3870/8800GT single card results.....   what are they trying to do with the graph??? Make it look like the 3870 to be greater than it is????  why not display a 8800GT SLi along with the CF results too ???? It sure would make the CF results less pretty. Heck.... the 8800GT could have a greater scaling over the CF results...&lt;br /&gt;
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If the results are anywhere true...(on a single card to single card comparison).... it is good that ATI is finally catching up. They have been missing from action for a very long time.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-12T15:35:26-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Sean Costello</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: HD 3850 Preview w/ Game Results</title>
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        <description>im gonna wait for better sites to review it like Bit Tech.</description>
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