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        <dc:creator>Beavis Khan</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#527071</link>
        <description>Robert McCurdy said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This panel doesn't have  the menu items to let me specify what I want it to do - I know cause I've tried them all!  As a reasonalbly experienced user include - I've tried everything else as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Robert,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure you're in &amp;quot;Advanced Mode&amp;quot; in the control panel. Then, expand the &amp;quot;Display&amp;quot; section and look for the &amp;quot;Flat Panel Scaling&amp;quot; sub-section. Pick your display, then pick how you want it to handle scaling (not at all, using the card, or using the monitor). HTH.</description>
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        <dc:creator>angryhippy</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#527061</link>
        <description>Well I think that if you have RivaTuner, you can use the drop down menu on the main tab under the target adapter box / customize and select low level refresh rate settings. Then in the refresh rates window go to the Monitor Driver wizard, and you can manually set the maximum display resolution. Hope that helps. The new nVidia control panel sucks! I just recently started using the RivaTuner and like it quite a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163&quot;&gt;http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-01-28T09:38:59-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Robert McCurdy</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#527058</link>
        <description>I am having the same problem as John.&lt;br /&gt;
My new computer has most of the latest stuff, except I'm sticking with XP for now.&lt;br /&gt;
My old computer has a Geforce2 card and can output full screen automatically using the 'Full Screen Video' function.  Unfortunately I can't find it on the Geforce 8800 gt card.  All I get is a stinking wizard &amp;gt; 'Start the NVIDIA Control Panel'.&lt;br /&gt;
This panel doesn't have  the menu items to let me specify what I want it to do - I know cause I've tried them all!  As a reasonalbly experienced user include - I've tried everything else as well.&lt;br /&gt;
It IS a function because some applications - like (3DMark2006) will do so automatically - so it CAN do it!&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment all I'm getting (using a clone setup) is an overblown desktop too large for the TV screen (a 50'' plasma, 16:9 ratio), which is the same ratio as my 22'' Samsung LCD monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anyway to get to the old display menus, so I can find the Full Screen Video function?&lt;br /&gt;
I have a sneaky suspicion this isn't a problem with Visa.&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe I could download some registry fix?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Regards&lt;br /&gt;
Robert McCurdy</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-27T03:40:47-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>t karlowicz</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#520570</link>
        <description>&amp;quot; For many customers, however, it is a time to rejoice, here is a $250 video card that will let you play Crysis, BioShock, Quake Wars, Unreal Tournament 3 and Valve's Orange Box of gaming bliss at highest resolution&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The statement above is a little mis-leading and could perhaps be clarified,&lt;br /&gt;
so that people don't run out and buy a 8800GT expecting to play Crysis at 1680+&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My 7900GTO can play BioShock, &lt;br /&gt;
and all Orange Box games at 1680 w/ setting on high no problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There currently is no card available that will play Crysis at 1680+ what so ever.&lt;br /&gt;
(let alone with AA enabled)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tomek.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:creator>Radomir Jordanovic</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
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        <description>I believe that somewhat, but what about all the slingbox users that have analog TVs?  Plenty of people on Internet forums daily look for MythTV updates and ask questions, and most of them may not have a 1080i/p TV.  I think there are still manufacturers out there who make little cards with excellent TV output via S-Video or composite connections.  I had quite a few GeForce4 MX cards that had great TV output.  I'd be disheartened if this quality were to become &amp;quot;obsolete.&amp;quot;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-25T10:24:03-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Bolda</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#520374</link>
        <description>John Ingram said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;angryhippy said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;John Ingram said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; I don;t know about the U.S. but in the UK, over 80% of homes still have a regular TV!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By Government policy, all analog TV programming will be phased out pretty soon. I think the target is 2009. Actually I'm not sure I follow. You're saying you can't plug your card into a regular TV? That doesn't make sense. What happens when you try.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Like a lot of people, I have no Full screen capability on TV allowing for small window on PC but full screen on TV. That option isn't even in the new control panel. Secondly, the picture is black and white because MNTSC is stuck in the signal option, greyed out and not changeable, thirdly, any saves I make in the Control Panel are lost on reboot, and whenever I muck around too much with it I get an error and 'Do you want to tell Microsoft about this' message.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As to UK going 'digital', for most that means getting a set-top box for their regular TV (around 60 million new electrical items being plugged in and having to be left on standby - so much for the environment!). So it won't change anything for me and many others that cannot use the new card/control panel with TV Out successfully. I heard the new ATI cards had a similar problem, and they released a patch that by all accounts got the ATI cards working perfectly. No joy with/from Nvidia however.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And if you need any proof Nvidia is struggling at the moment, is the bi-weekly updates it seems to be having at the moment! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In conclusion, from what I have read on the forums, the latest Nvidia drivers have problems and the new Control Panel foisted on customers without them asking is as buggy as hell! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can attest to the above personally!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think the problem with no/poor analogue tv out may be due to the Hollywood/Microsoft deal incorporated into windows vista and maybe ever xp now with recent updates. it disables ( or deliberately degrades) any unencrypted output from video and sound hardware, when PREMIUM CONTENT is detected. and the detection of such seem to leave a lot to be desired.&lt;br /&gt;
This may leave hardware manufacturers to pay very little attention to outputs that cannot be used acording to Hollywood/Microsoft rules.&lt;br /&gt;
Just my opinion, boldarok&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-14T18:33:00-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Unatommer</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518937</link>
        <description>I purchased an ATI/AMD (DAAMIT?) 2900pro about 4 or 5 weeks ago and have been happy with it (Overclocked to XT speeds - its the same card, different bios).  Almost wish I would have waited for this card, but I had already waited so long that I said to myself &amp;quot;if Nvidia can't tell me when a new product is coming out, screw them...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Considering power consumption, this card is much better than my 2900pro, although when you compare the two (pro oc'd to xt speeds to 8800gt), these two cards are in the same relative performance ballpark per dollar ($260us for 2900pro).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I know I should have waited for the 8800gt, but my 7800gt was getting old and I wanted to play all my games on max settings.  &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile3.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:D&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-14T00:38:09-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>DsL.Dilbert</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
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        <description>I got a eVGA e-GeForce 8800GT Superclocked Edition for $269.99CDN luckily just as it was released. It even came with a Bioshock mousepad and a retail copy of Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile3.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:D&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot;&gt;</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T22:18:33-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Tam the Bam</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518815</link>
        <description>&lt;br /&gt;
 Well I'd rather wait 2 years to upgrade and play CRYSIS:EPISODE II...THE PHANTOM KOREANS</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T19:39:14-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Plug &amp;amp; Play</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
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        <description>Stan &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would love to see hoe CRYSIS performs on your rig &amp;amp; not the demo, all the magazines are getting back handers from EA or summick!! But I dont want to hijack this thread with Crysis crap.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Saying it will run on low spec machines on med/high on 1600 res.....BROLLICKS!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have the $$$$$ for a new GPU and CPU whenever the right ones come along.</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T19:28:52-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Stan Miranda</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518793</link>
        <description>Like i mentioned before,ebay has 25 of them all diff models.There was over 100 last week,so you know why most went missing from stores.The two 8800GT KOs i ordered from evga took 4 days to get here after i paid $75 for next day air,and they had them in stock when i ordered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Striker Extreme&lt;br /&gt;
QX6800 OCed to 3.51GHz with a pre_production Freezone Elite&lt;br /&gt;
Two eVGA 8800 Ultras&lt;br /&gt;
4GBs of PC8500 Dominators&lt;br /&gt;
2/150GB Raptors Raid 0 /   1/ WD 750GB and one samsung 500Gb&lt;br /&gt;
CoolerMaster 1000w  real power pro&lt;br /&gt;
CoolerMaster Black 830 stacker&lt;br /&gt;
Two 20X DVD burners&lt;br /&gt;
2nd rig&lt;br /&gt;
eVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1&lt;br /&gt;
QX 6800 OCed to 3.2 GHz Zalman 9700&lt;br /&gt;
Two eVGA 8800GT KOs&lt;br /&gt;
BFG PhysX card&lt;br /&gt;
1 / 150 Gb Raptor / 1 / WD 750Gb / 1 / WD 250Gb&lt;br /&gt;
4GBs XMS2 Pro PC6400&lt;br /&gt;
CoolerMaster 850w real power pro&lt;br /&gt;
1 / 18x DVD burner &amp;amp;  1 / 20x DVD burner&lt;br /&gt;
Mozart TX case&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T17:54:30-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>John Ingram</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518785</link>
        <description>angryhippy said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;John Ingram said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; I don;t know about the U.S. but in the UK, over 80% of homes still have a regular TV!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By Government policy, all analog TV programming will be phased out pretty soon. I think the target is 2009. Actually I'm not sure I follow. You're saying you can't plug your card into a regular TV? That doesn't make sense. What happens when you try.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Like a lot of people, I have no Full screen capability on TV allowing for small window on PC but full screen on TV. That option isn't even in the new control panel. Secondly, the picture is black and white because MNTSC is stuck in the signal option, greyed out and not changeable, thirdly, any saves I make in the Control Panel are lost on reboot, and whenever I muck around too much with it I get an error and 'Do you want to tell Microsoft about this' message.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As to UK going 'digital', for most that means getting a set-top box for their regular TV (around 60 million new electrical items being plugged in and having to be left on standby - so much for the environment!). So it won't change anything for me and many others that cannot use the new card/control panel with TV Out successfully. I heard the new ATI cards had a similar problem, and they released a patch that by all accounts got the ATI cards working perfectly. No joy with/from Nvidia however.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And if you need any proof Nvidia is struggling at the moment, is the bi-weekly updates it seems to be having at the moment! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In conclusion, from what I have read on the forums, the latest Nvidia drivers have problems and the new Control Panel foisted on customers without them asking is as buggy as hell! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I can attest to the above personally!</description>
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T17:29:40-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>DublinGunner</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518779</link>
        <description>Adam Mccarnny said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;for me I'm just going to put my 8800 GTS 320 in my kids PC so they can do some nice gaming and dad gets a new 8800 GT SSC 700/2000 hehe. This way I can play crysis little better. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you notice more than a couple of frames difference i;ll be surprised, at least @ 12x10 or so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Its a bit faster alright, but you might be better off waiting a bit, unless of course, you just cannot wait! At least see how the HD3870 performs.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T17:10:37-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>angryhippy</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Re: Nvidia's 8800GT, caught in a bit of a crysis?</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/69502/?l=1#518776</link>
        <description>John Ingram said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; I don;t know about the U.S. but in the UK, over 80% of homes still have a regular TV!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By Government policy, all analog TV programming will be phased out pretty soon. I think the target is 2009. Actually I'm not sure I follow. You're saying you can't plug your card into a regular TV? That doesn't make sense. What happens when you try.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2007-11-13T17:09:41-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
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        <description>for me I'm just going to put my 8800 GTS 320 in my kids PC so they can do some nice gaming and dad gets a new 8800 GT SSC 700/2000 hehe. This way I can play crysis little better. </description>
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