Hardware Analysis - a Creative Contradiction....................

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

A_Pickle — 2008-04-05T00:18:59-05:00

No, Creative's a bitch. Life's a bitch when bitching companies like Creative get their way.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

Meats of Evil — 2008-04-04T21:20:22-05:00

I still like Creative, excellent sound quality and never gave gave me problems, except for that thing that static sound thing that happens with BF2142.

But I disliked that My Zen vision M only lasted 11 months. I think I should be able to fix it by buying a new motherboard for the Zen but it costs $50, I'm also outside of warranty.

Life's a bitch.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

A_Pickle — 2008-04-04T15:36:51-05:00

That's two s**tty companies that are in a stuck position. Today's a good day.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

Liquid Shadow — 2008-04-04T15:31:44-05:00

Yep, I'm sick of this bullcrap. I own an Audigy 2 ZS and this will probably be my last Creative soundcard. I recently got an Edirol Firewire audio interface for recording, it blows the Audigy 2 out of the water, and guess what, it fully supports Vista 64bit!!!!!!! A side note, I don't have a problem with peripheral hardware from Creative, for example I love my Zen Vision M player, it rocks.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

Beavis Khan — 2008-04-04T12:40:12-05:00

Guess what, Creative? I'm still not going to buy any more of your s**t. Tools.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

DublinGunner — 2008-04-04T11:32:54-05:00

Please note that Daniel_K's drivers are still downloadable from filefront
Link to thread:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id...d.id=31341

Creative have removed the SBLive! ALchemy driver. SO only software support if your SBLive! fails to initialise hardware mode.

Re: a Creative Contradiction....................

Tam the Bam — 2008-04-04T11:28:21-05:00

Well it's the kick up the arse that Creative was needing. I can understand the problems
with new operating systems as well tho, but, was XP in a similar dilema when that
was first introduced? Bearing in mind that Vista now incorporates OpenAL and not
DirectX Sound...

a Creative Contradiction....................

DublinGunner — 2008-04-04T10:32:40-05:00

It seems they might want to keep customers after all....................

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14475

Creative's initial response was to pull all of his work from the official forums and to send him a cease-and-desist message, but Kawakami now says, "I've been told they will allow me to continue with my mods, except the 'forbidden' ones. . . . I'm also allowed to receive donations."

Indeed, Creative posted a message on its forums in order to re-assert its position. The company starts off by saying it has read the "strong feedback" about its move, and that it failed to make it clear in its initial cease-and-desist note that it does in fact support "independent driver development by independent third parties." The firm adds that Windows Vista's new audio architecture and Microsoft's certification process for audio drivers make it "very difficult for Creative to develop updates for all past products" and that "outside developers have been very helpful." However, Creative says it frowns on "unauthorized distribution of other companies' property."

This somewhat ambiguous message ends with the promise, "We hope to work out a mutually agreeable method for working with Daniel_k in supporting his efforts in driver development. Going forward, we are committed to doing a better job of working more closely with third parties to support their development for our products and our customers."