Hardware Analysis - Athlon X2 6400+ BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

McFly — 2008-04-28T02:43:44-05:00

I got 600MHz out of my Venice for about 2 years and I'm getting 800MHz from my Toledo, but those are both 2.0GHz at stock ... anything where you start out near the limits of the architecture is going to be hard to take much farther.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Paul Hubers — 2008-04-28T01:42:28-05:00

Intel is also lauching the 6 core dunington which has 8mb of L3 cache.
and my 3d mark score is 12600 ill try testing it on other programs

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

FordGT90Concept — 2008-04-24T12:44:24-05:00

As already been said, one can't expect much more than 3.6 GHz from a Windsor. 400 MHz overclock is about the limit for any Windsor/San Diego/Orleans/etc. Athlon 64 processor without ridiculous cooling.

I wouldn't hold my breath for anything from AMD. At about the same time AMD is going to launch something new, Intel will be launching Nehalem which has been in the works for almost a decade. AMD is going to have to strain to get on top of Core microarchitecture and it is going to be very, very hard to estimate--let alone surpass--the potential of Nehalem.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

DublinGunner — 2008-04-24T11:07:39-05:00

Kieran Blenkarne said:

That X2 Vs the Core 2......what about other hardware? Were they running the same video card? Memory?

If you wanna bench a CPU, don't bench it with 3D Mark.

Or ANY graphics limited test.

Most any modern CPU will give you pretty much the same performance in games, especially at higher resolutions and eye candy turned on.

My advice for a gaming rig on a budget - buy a decnt, modern CPU, and keep the extra cash for a more powerful GPU. You'll be glad you did.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Kieran Blenkarne — 2008-04-24T02:24:12-05:00

That X2 Vs the Core 2......what about other hardware? Were they running the same video card? Memory?

If you wanna bench a CPU, don't bench it with 3D Mark.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Mothow — 2008-04-23T23:55:51-05:00

Hi again PCGEEK ..lol

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

MrBungle — 2008-04-23T22:55:55-05:00

Adam Kolak said:

If Supreet says Intel's chips are faster then you know Intel's chips are faster. You probably don't know Paul, but Supreet is the most loyal AMD supporter around here

well, except for SuperXP but I haven't seen him on in a long time.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Adam Kolak — 2008-04-23T21:18:44-05:00

Supreet Virdi said:

Clock-to-clock, Core 2 Duo (newer ones especially) are approximately 40% faster than AMD (Athlon X2 Socket 939/AM2) Processors.

Paul, Supreet is right. If Supreet says Intel's chips are faster then you know Intel's chips are faster. You probably don't know Paul, but Supreet is the most loyal AMD supporter around here

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Supreet Virdi — 2008-04-23T19:45:20-05:00

Doesn't make any sense, try a different benchmark like PC Mark, Sis Sandra (Arithmetic/Multimedia) or Science Mark.

Clock-to-clock, Core 2 Duo (newer ones especially) are approximately 40% faster than AMD (Athlon X2 Socket 939/AM2) Processors.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Paul Hubers — 2008-04-23T19:30:21-05:00

my non OC 6400+ lost to my friends 8400 by 1 fps on 3dmark and he was oc at 3.3 stock for him is 3.0

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Supreet Virdi — 2008-04-23T19:27:02-05:00

Get 8400. Don't expect miracles from X2 6400+.

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Paul Hubers — 2008-04-23T19:24:18-05:00

im gonna get a new processor soon anyways, gonna sell this to my freind and get either this one: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Processor HH80562PH0678MK - 2.66GHz, 8MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Kentsfield, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor

or this one: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Processor BX80580Q9300 - 2.50GHz, 6MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Yorkfield, Quad Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan

or: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor BX80570E8400 - 3.0GHz, 6MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Wolfdale, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan

then again AMD is coming out with thier new 6 core and 12 core shangai's this fall

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Paul Hubers — 2008-04-23T19:19:36-05:00

ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler
i tried droping the HT it lets my fsb go up, i got to 3.8 but is to unstable to hold so i had to drop iot down to 3.52

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

Meats_Of_Evil — 2008-04-23T16:32:10-05:00

BTW what heatsink are you using?

Re: Athlon X2 6400 BE wont go higher than 3.6ghz

DublinGunner — 2008-04-23T08:26:53-05:00

Trust what is says in your BIOS. the latest version of CPU-Z should also give you a proper reading.

To be honest, expecting more than 3.6 with that CPU is dreaming. Just like the others, you must have one hell of a CPU to even get to 3.6 on air cooling.

If you want to see if your HTT limited, drop the CPU multi and try push the HTT frequency. Even nForce4 based boards were able to get over 300Mhz