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        <dc:date>2008-06-25T15:04:26-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Beavis Khan</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71819/#538830</link>
        <description>Brendan Gonsalves said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2) The 1000:1 contrast ratio on the monitor is a bit of  let down. I would recommend getting a monitor with at least a 2000:1 contrast ratio.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't put too much stock in contrast ratios - they're pretty easy for the manufacturer to fudge. I'd rather have an honest 1000:1 than a sleazy 2000:1 any day.</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-25T14:48:52-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dan Whitfield</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71819/#538828</link>
        <description> Ive created a different build for the same price, what do you think ? This build has a far superior TFT and the new ATI 4850 card for the same price.&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you make any alterations considering my budget is maxed out here ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English &lt;br /&gt;
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 £59.65 &lt;br /&gt;
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    Corsair 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 XMS2 Memory Non-ECC Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-18) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
£64.78    &lt;br /&gt;
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 Sony DRU-190S 20X DVD±RW DL &amp;amp; DVD-RAM Serial ATA - Retail Multi Bezel &amp;amp; Nero CD ROM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
£16.95 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB SATAII 16MB Cache 7200 RPM - OEM &lt;br /&gt;
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 £35.94 &lt;br /&gt;
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    Samsung SM2032BW 20&amp;quot;TFT Monitor Widescreen 1680x1050 3000:1 300cd/m2 2ms VGA/DVI-D Glossy Black 3 Years Warrany  &lt;br /&gt;
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£169.99   &lt;br /&gt;
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    PowerColor HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card &lt;br /&gt;
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 £122.95 &lt;br /&gt;
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    MSI P35 Neo-F Socket 775 FSB1333 onboard 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard &lt;br /&gt;
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 £54.92 &lt;br /&gt;
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    Coolermaster Centurion 5 All Black Case + 550W eXtreme Power Plus PSU &lt;br /&gt;
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 £73.94 &lt;br /&gt;
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    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 (3.16GHz) Socket 775 Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor  &lt;br /&gt;
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total inc vat + delivery :  £766.07 &lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2008-06-24T22:14:58-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>McFly</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>*sigh* ... I love how a card that's better than the &amp;quot;high end&amp;quot; video card that I was saving up to get is now a &amp;quot;mid-range&amp;quot; card &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile6.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:~&quot; title=&quot;:~&quot;&gt; ... and I &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; don't have the money, lol.</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-24T22:13:14-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Adam Kolak</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>That looks like a great configuration, and the E8500 and Gigabyte P35 motherboard also offer you some overclocking room for the future.  Although with the E8500 running stock @ 3.16Ghz you really have no reason to overclock at this point.  Down the line though, you may want the extra power and you could easily OC that thing to 4Ghz.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Also you got a solid midrange graphics card that should play all the latest games, plenty of ram for Vista, and just a solid system all around.  I can not find anything wrong with that configuration at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have the Cooler Master Centurion 5 case, and it is the best case you can get in that price range.  It's built as well or better then many cases costing much more.  It also offers plenty of room for future modifications and has excellent dust filtering in the front panel.  </description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-24T22:09:09-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Brendan Gonsalves</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71819/#538768</link>
        <description>Dan Whitfield said: &lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;How about this then ! &lt;br /&gt;
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PC Case: 	Coolermaster Centurion 5 All Black Case  £73.94 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141707&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141707&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Power Supply: 	550W eXtreme Power Plus PSU Free with case&lt;br /&gt;
Processor: 	Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 CPU - £152.58 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.shopandgo.co.uk/product.php?product=e8500&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0&amp;amp;amp;ref=sg_yah_4a7_p90134&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.shopandgo.co.uk/product.php?product=e8500&amp;amp;x=0&amp;a...4a7_p90134&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
Heatsink &amp;amp; CPU Fan: 	Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro £15.62 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Motherboard: 	Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard - £58.14 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143176&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143176&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Memory: 	OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory NVIDIA SLI READY EDITION CL5 £66.47 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138561/show_product_overview&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138561/show_product_overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
PCI-E Graphics: 	ASUS 8800GTS 512MB DDR3 £139.95 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139381&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139381&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sound Card: 	Creative Labs Audigy SE 7.1 Sound Card £16.62  &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98938&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98938&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Primary Hard Drive: 	Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB  £42.49 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Main Optical Drive: 	Sony DRU-190S 20X DVD±RW DL &amp;amp; DVD-RAM Serial ATA  £16.95  &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142274&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142274&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Network Adapter: 	Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card - included in price&lt;br /&gt;
TFT Monitor: 	Samsung Syncmaster SM2043NW 20&amp;quot; TFT Monitor £139.&lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/99http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;99http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Operating System: 	Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit – English £59.67 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067/show_product_overview&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067/show_product_overview&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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= £766.80 delivered (dont need keyboard and mouse, speakers can be bought later on. &lt;/div&gt;Looks good.&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2008-06-24T17:02:26-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dan Whitfield</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71819/#538746</link>
        <description>How about this then ! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PC Case: 	Coolermaster Centurion 5 All Black Case  £73.94 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141707&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141707&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Power Supply: 	550W eXtreme Power Plus PSU Free with case&lt;br /&gt;
Processor: 	Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 CPU - £152.58 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.shopandgo.co.uk/product.php?product=e8500&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0&amp;amp;amp;ref=sg_yah_4a7_p90134&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.shopandgo.co.uk/product.php?product=e8500&amp;amp;x=0&amp;a...4a7_p90134&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
Heatsink &amp;amp; CPU Fan: 	Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro £15.62 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Motherboard: 	Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard - £58.14 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143176&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143176&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Memory: 	OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory NVIDIA SLI READY EDITION CL5 £66.47 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138561/show_product_overview&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138561/show_product_overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
PCI-E Graphics: 	ASUS 8800GTS 512MB DDR3 £139.95 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139381&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139381&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sound Card: 	Creative Labs Audigy SE 7.1 Sound Card £16.62  &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98938&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98938&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Primary Hard Drive: 	Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB  £42.49 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Main Optical Drive: 	Sony DRU-190S 20X DVD±RW DL &amp;amp; DVD-RAM Serial ATA  £16.95  &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142274&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142274&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Network Adapter: 	Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card - included in price&lt;br /&gt;
TFT Monitor: 	Samsung Syncmaster SM2043NW 20&amp;quot; TFT Monitor £139.&lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/99http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;99http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142612&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Operating System: 	Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit – English £59.67 &lt;a class=&quot;ext&quot; href=&quot;/action/r/http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067/show_product_overview&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067/show_product_overview&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= £766.80 delivered (dont need keyboard and mouse, speakers can be bought later on )&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2008-06-24T01:50:09-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Brendan Gonsalves</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>Looks pretty good however I have two suggestions.&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Why not get 2GBx2 DDR2 instead of 1GBx4 DDR2? That way you can have dual channel support + a better upgrade path in the future if need be.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) The 1000:1 contrast ratio on the monitor is a bit of  let down. I would recommend getting a monitor with at least a 2000:1 contrast ratio.</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-23T22:10:00-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dan Whitfield</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>bump</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-23T20:00:48-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dan Whitfield</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>its all logitech gear &lt;img src=&quot;http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile1.gif&quot; width=&quot;14&quot; height=&quot;14&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;:)&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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the psu should be okay but i understand as that was my only worry&lt;br /&gt;
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        <dc:date>2008-06-23T19:41:56-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Liquid Shadow</dc:creator>
        <title>Re: Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
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        <description>My only concern with that rig is the power supply. 460W seems to be on the verge of &amp;quot;not enough juice&amp;quot; Other than that it seems to be a decent rig. You might want to check on the specs/make of the speakers, mouse and keyboard.</description>
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        <dc:date>2008-06-23T19:21:48-05:00</dc:date>
        <dc:creator>Dan Whitfield</dc:creator>
        <title>Help please ! New gaming rig on a budget</title>
        <link>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71819/#0</link>
        <description>Hey guys,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, its that time again to scrap my old faithful and invest in building a totally new rig. I have a set budget of £780 ( 980 Euros / 1 527 $ ). I do a lot of gaming and also need a decent tft, 2.1 speaker set and the OS for this price.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now if i wanted a pre-build job I could get all this from arbico.co.uk for the price :&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PC Case:  Coolermaster Elite 330 Case&lt;br /&gt;
Power Supply:  Quiet Coolermaster 460Watt Dual 12V Rail PSU&lt;br /&gt;
Processor:  Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 CPU &lt;br /&gt;
Heatsink &amp;amp; CPU Fan:  Standard Heatsink &amp;amp; CPU Fan &lt;br /&gt;
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard &lt;br /&gt;
Memory:  4 x 1GB Corsair 800Mhz PC6400 DDR2 Ram &lt;br /&gt;
PCI-E Graphics:  512MB nVidia Geforce 8800GT PCI-Express Graphics Card &lt;br /&gt;
Sound Card:  Creative Labs Audigy SE 7.1 Sound Card &lt;br /&gt;
Primary Hard Drive:  500GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive &lt;br /&gt;
Main Optical Drive:  20x Dual Layer DVD Rewriter &lt;br /&gt;
Network Adapter:  Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card &lt;br /&gt;
TFT Monitor:  22&amp;quot; Cibox (C2201) Widescreen, VGA, 1000:1, 5ms, TFT  &lt;br /&gt;
Keyboard &amp;amp; Mice:  Keyboard &amp;amp; Optical Mouse &lt;br /&gt;
Speakers:  2.1 Surround Sound Speakers &lt;br /&gt;
Operating System:  Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32bit Version) &lt;br /&gt;
Antivirus &amp;amp; Security Software:  AVG AntiVirus &lt;br /&gt;
Multimedia Software:  Nero Burning Rom &lt;br /&gt;
Office Software:  OpenOffice&lt;br /&gt;
Warranty:  2 Years Return To Base Warranty (1st Year - Parts &amp;amp; Labour, 2nd Year - Labour Only) &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
= total £780&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What do you guys think? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Could this be beaten or improved on for the price if i build myself (after looking on e-buyer i highly doubt it )&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone could post a better spec with links I would be really grateful !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Im useless at overclocking so im going for stock spec over OC potential but i wouldnt midn a bit of scope for future OC'ing&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers !!&lt;br /&gt;
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