Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/ 2008-12-03T21:29:20-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2008-07-05T04:36:44-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539643 You remove 2 to 4 self tapping screws, you take out the old fan, you place the new fan and screw in 2 to 4 self tapping screws.<br /> <br /> Thats all that is necessary.<br /> <br /> Convincing tech support that all you need is the fan is the hard part. The replacement is less than 30 minutes.<br /> <br /> Gerritt text/html 2008-07-04T13:53:26-05:00 john albrich http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539597 One thing to consider...are you absolutely certain you have to have that fan working? If your temps are ok without it, then just disonnect<b>*</b> and know that you can always do the repair later if your temps start climbing to unacceptable levels.<br /> <br /> That case has such major cooling already, the 200mm seems over the top unless you've just jam-packed the system with high-power components and are OCing. Your configuration doesn't look like it's anywhere near that point.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>*</b>Or, you remove the fan, leave the grill, and have a large unobstructed vent on the top of the case. text/html 2008-07-04T13:10:58-05:00 Nathan Hunt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539593 Damn it, but i really really REALLY do not want to get onto tech support about this problem, and be on the phone to them for hours racking up charges over a very big fan. Can i change it myself d'ya reckon? It seems daunting just looking at the size of it, but it's just a fan right? I've changed fans before...small ones. Thing is the wires from the fan go through the chassis, and if i did it, it would almost certainly be very messy, (my wiring in general is consistent with my &quot;can't be bothered attitude&quot;).<br /> <br /> The fan is only what, 12 quid or something?<br /> <br /> Anyway cheers for identifying the problem guys. Thanks. text/html 2008-07-04T03:03:34-05:00 john albrich http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539550 Nathan Hunt said: <div class="quote">...So if the voltage is 12v, and the connected molex can do 12v, how come it isn't spinning? Maybe i have it on high setting, which apparently uses 13.2v, and that molex connector can't provide that or something.</div><br /> <br /> That's not the problem.<br /> <br /> The spec shows the minimum and maximum +12V line value which will guarantee the 3-speed functionality works without damaging the fan. In other words, your +12V line from the PSU is well within that range, and it <b>should</b> work just fine.<br /> <br /> If you have VERIFIED that +12 is available on the connector from the PSU, then somethin's broke: wiring, switch, connector, or circuit board inside the fan (yup...computer fans got circuit boards inside 'em) text/html 2008-07-03T23:18:20-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539534 Bad fan....<br /> Very bad fan...<br /> If spanking it doesn't help, then you need to RMA.<br /> If it came with the case, you may need to talk to tech support for about 5-6 hours in order to get just the fan vs. the entire chassis/case, but you should be able to do so.<br /> <br /> Gerritt text/html 2008-07-03T23:11:25-05:00 Nathan Hunt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539532 Rory Witham said: <div class="quote">how od, switches on fans.. not seem that before, well yeah tam if it aint working its broke.<br /> <br /> LOL made my laugh anyway..<br /> <br /> so your PSU... What brand, how many rails, and whats the amps..<br /> <br /> I hoping your not going to say 350 watt single rail 12.3amp PSU. cuze that would be funny..<br /> <br /> BTW red is 5v and yellow is 12v<br /> <br /> does the fan move smoothly? if it dont spin it both ways for a while then turn it on a see if that makes it work. I can see faults would be possible in the fan switches</div><br /> <br /> Haha, nah my psu was expensive, well at the time anyway, bought it about a year ago. Seems to be fine running this beefy set up. The PSU model is:<br /> <br /> Coolermaster RS-550-ACLY Real Power Pro<br /> <br /> Model RS-550-ACAA-A1<br /> Type ATX Form Factor 12V V2.3 / SSI Standard EPS 12V V2.91<br /> Dimension (W / H / D) Standard ATX 150 x 140 x 86 mm<br /> Input Voltage 90~264V (Auto Range)<br /> Input Current 8A @ 115 Vac / 4A @ 230 Vac<br /> Input Frequency Range 47~63 Hz<br /> PFC Active PFC (0.99)<br /> Power Good Signal 100~500 ms<br /> Hold Up Time &gt;17ms<br /> Efficiency 83%(110W) / 84%(275W) / 81%(550W)<br /> MTBF &gt;100,000 hrs<br /> Protection OVP / UVP / OTP / OCP / OLP / OPP / SCP<br /> Output Capacity 550 Watts Continuous<br /> Max. Output Capacity 660 Watts<br /> Operation Temperature 0~40&amp;#8451;<br /> <br /> Hope that helps guys. I've tried all switch positions, still not working <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile2.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":(" title=":("><br /> <br /> <br /> text/html 2008-07-03T22:51:53-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539529 Rory,<br /> Maybe I miss read the spec, but it did seem to indicate a physical switch....???<br /> I've actually gotten cheap a55 fans before that had the wires crossed on the molex, not that ANTEC is in that group...but it could happen. text/html 2008-07-03T22:42:29-05:00 Rory Witham http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539528 how od, switches on fans.. not seem that before, well yeah tam if it aint working its broke.<br /> <br /> LOL made my laugh anyway..<br /> <br /> so your PSU... What brand, how many rails, and whats the amps..<br /> <br /> I hoping your not going to say 350 watt single rail 12.3amp PSU. cuze that would be funny..<br /> <br /> BTW red is 5v and yellow is 12v<br /> <br /> does the fan move smoothly? if it dont spin it both ways for a while then turn it on a see if that makes it work. I can see faults would be possible in the fan switches text/html 2008-07-03T20:24:19-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539515 Have you attempted different switch positions?<br /> Could be the switch is'nt making contact. text/html 2008-07-03T17:58:58-05:00 Nathan Hunt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539504 Ok i've found the specifications for this fan.<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.laptopsandpcs.co.uk/Shop/Components/Cooling/ANTEC/12713_ANTEC_200MM_FAN_BIG_BOY_200_TRICOOL_Retail.html" target="_blank">http://www.laptopsandpcs.co.uk/Shop/Components/Cooling/ANTEC/1...etail.html</a><br /> <br /> ANTEC 200MM FAN BIG BOY 200 TRICOOL<br /> <br /> Application: System<br /> Connector: 4 Pin<br /> Depth: 30mm<br /> Height: 225mm<br /> Model Number: Big Boy 200<br /> Package Type: OEM<br /> Special Features: Size: 200 x 30mm TriCool Fan‚Rated Voltage: 12V DC‚Operating Voltage: 10.8V to 13.2V‚3-speed switch‚Fits Antec Nine Hundred Case<br /> Type: Chassis Fan<br /> Warranty: 1 Year<br /> Web Address: <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.antec.com" target="_blank">http://www.antec.com</a><br /> Width: 200mm<br /> ________________________________________________________________________<br /> <br /> So if the voltage is 12v, and the connected molex can do 12v, how come it isn't spinning? Maybe i have it on high setting, which apparently uses 13.2v, and that molex connector can't provide that or something. text/html 2008-07-03T17:15:16-05:00 john albrich http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539502 Nathan Hunt said: <div class="quote">...Whats this different voltage thing then? What voltage are normal molex connectors? Are they 5 volts?...</div><br /> <br /> The standard 4-pin molex power connectors provide a +12V lead, a +5V lead, and 2 ground/earth leads. (althought sum cheaps bastiches don't install the 2nd ground wire.)<br /> <br /> By selective wiring or by using a specific switch, a fan can be wired to this connector to obtain either +5, +12, or even +7V. The +7V is obtained by special use of the +12V and +5. I sometimes do this to quiet down a fan that is too noisy running at 12V, and too slow at +5V.<br /> <br /> +5V alone sometimes insufficient to spin a +12V fan of modern design. <br /> <br /> text/html 2008-07-03T16:30:59-05:00 Nathan Hunt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539501 Gerritt said: <div class="quote">Nathan,<br /> Have you tried giving the 200mm fan a flick to get it turning? If you have and it still doesn't turn check your connection, you may be trying to run it from a 5v vs a 12v source.<br /> Try a different connection.<br /> I'm assuming when you say that they are 4 pin connectors that you are refering to the large &quot;molex&quot; style of connectors? Or are you trying to connect them to the MB which usually uses 3 pin (or 4 pin with a RPM monitoring pin)?<br /> Gerritt</div><br /> <br /> Yes, i've tried flicking the fan to see if it turns, and obviously i can move it around but it doesn't keep spinning, and yeah they're molex connectors coming straight off the power supply, sorry if i wasn't clear enough on that.<br /> <br /> Whats this different voltage thing then? What voltage are normal molex connectors? Are they 5 volts?<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help. text/html 2008-07-03T00:42:25-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539435 Nathan,<br /> Have you tried giving the 200mm fan a flick to get it turning? If you have and it still doesn't turn check your connection, you may be trying to run it from a 5v vs a 12v source.<br /> Try a different connection.<br /> I'm assuming when you say that they are 4 pin connectors that you are refering to the large &quot;molex&quot; style of connectors? Or are you trying to connect them to the MB which usually uses 3 pin (or 4 pin with a RPM monitoring pin)?<br /> Gerritt text/html 2008-07-03T00:03:16-05:00 Tam the Bam http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539431 <br /> Lol Rory good diagnoses! If it's not working... it's broke <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":P" title=":P"> text/html 2008-07-02T23:39:12-05:00 Nathan Hunt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71894/#539430 Nevermind, next to each of the 4 pin power plugs there was a little fan controller switch. I turned all of them on, and they all started apart from the top one. Which struggled to spin and then stopped. It's a gigantic 200mm fan, any ideas why it isn't working? Not enough power or something?<br /> <br /> Thanks.