Hardware Analysis - Vista Niglies...

Re: Vista Niglies...

Adam Kolak — 2008-07-09T18:10:30-05:00

Tam the Bam said:

That link you posted the other day about Ram, Adam. It stated the 4x1GB of ram
is better than 2x2GB of Ram. I have 4x1GB of ram

Not really, as the latencies are higher with 4x1GB and you have no upgrade path. Also they were running them at 2T, where as if you were running 2x2GB in the real world you could run 1T. I think they tested with the ram at 2T because when you are using 4 sticks you have to and they wanted to keep it consistent. They also said this:

It's worth noting that the 4x1GB of memory results were completely sporadic - within the same benchmark the times or frames per second were all over the place. We can only attribute this as a "feature" of the Asus BIOS and how it deals with 4 DIMMs, but having said that, running 4x2GB of memory worked far more consistently.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-09T17:33:09-05:00

That link you posted the other day about Ram, Adam. It stated the 4x1GB of ram
is better than 2x2GB of Ram. I have 4x1GB of ram

Re: Vista Niglies...

Adam Kolak — 2008-07-09T17:19:11-05:00

The more ram you have the more ram Vista uses, this is because it caches things into memory that you often use to make them faster to open. Personally strongly recommend at least 3GB of ram for Windows Vista. And your best off just buying 4GB (2x2GB).

Re: Vista Niglies...

Plug & Play — 2008-07-09T11:41:09-05:00

A the wonder that is Vista Aero.....I mean they should bring out a AERO game or sumit.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Jules — 2008-07-09T11:25:08-05:00

Mines at 41% of 2GB
The Windows desktop manager and the windows sidebar are using quite a lot.
(As is Explorer,the email client I have open, and Windows Live Messenger)
However, I LIKE the Aero desktop and the Sidebar!
A while ago I read an article on tweeking the services you could turn off for XP to make it 'leaner'. Someone needs to do this for Vista.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-08T13:01:19-05:00

Aye and the rest! Mine's sitting at 35% as I type. 35% of 4GB is 1414Mb. Unbelievable.
Although it does not affect my system, it's a pain. Simply because after an application
has been used, and closed it's like the system doesn't know how to "flush out" the
ram - if that makes any sense? For example, if I'm sitting at 28%, and then use
PerfectDisk to defrag, it shoot up to 40%. Once I've finished with that app, and closed
it, it should technically go back to 28% but doesn't. The ram stays at 40%.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Plug & Play — 2008-07-08T12:50:33-05:00

The absolute biggest niggle I have with vista is the amount of system resources it uses when "idle"......it is around 780MB compared to XP which uses about 1/5th of the same amount. Surely this should have been the 1st thing that was looked at when the Service Pack was been introduced :o :o" title=">:o"> :o" title=">:o"> :o" title=">:o"> :o" title=">:o">

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-08T12:46:40-05:00

Jules said:

Another trivial one, is the search engine on google. After a period of time, when you
click on it, you see ur history of all the stuff you've typed in. If i decide to manually delete
it i have to click in each one and delete unlike XP where i just highlighted it,and it
would keep my finger pressed on DEL and it would clear. On vista, it has to be done
individually? Why's this?

To clear all the history in google at one time:
Tools> Internet Options> General> Browsing History - Delete> Delete Forms.

Here is a link to an old article on it:
http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2165181

Lol yea Jules, I know that. It wasn't that that I was going on about.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Jules — 2008-07-08T11:43:49-05:00

Well then next time I go into RUN and press M or S, it should remember what I
typed previously.

You should turn on Auto Complete
Internet Options> Content> Autocomplete settings.
Make sure 'forms' is ticked

Re: Vista Niglies...

Jules — 2008-07-08T11:35:14-05:00

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-08T11:03:02-05:00

Yea I do like the Aero. Much better than XP's interface. I always thought XP looked
kind "Telly-Tubby-ish" if that makes sense. I like Vista.Always have. I was glad to get
rid of XP. It looked to old fashioned, although to some that didn't matter. You can
do more with the interface with Vista than you could with XP.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Plug & Play — 2008-07-08T10:57:59-05:00

Vista...Hmmmmm. I mean each to their own but the only thing I "dig" about vista is the CLEAN INTERFACE......

I have used X32 and currently X64 ultimate and it does nothing for performance etc that I see. In fact as its well documented XP is a tad faster....Of course I am looking at this from a pure gaming scenario. I know Vista is more secure etc. but was/is it worth the hassle......

And dont get me started about DX10 is a pure gimmick, I mean the main selling point of Crysis was the DX10 Effects that most can be enable on XP ffs.....DX10 will only be starting to be of benifit when the next windows OS will be hitting us..and then the propaganda will start all over again,

As far as niggle go...I hate the networking menu in vista...it tries to make it look like the operating screen of the air traffic control tower in JFK airport.

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-08T10:54:25-05:00

Ah right, yea I kinda thougth you were on about that. I wasn't 100% sure tho.
I'm going to look into this today. Thanks

Re: Vista Niglies...

john albrich — 2008-07-08T10:52:28-05:00

Tam the Bam said:

That's some interesting links John, thanks. But, for the RUN command, I'm having
the opposite problem. I'd like those previous commands to stay there, so next
time I'm in RUN command, all i need to do is press "M" and msconfig will appear,
and I can just click on that to activate it. It seems like the MRU is always being cleared
everytime I exit it? Like I said earlier in the thread, when I first installed Vista when it
was released it was doing this fine. But since another format, it's stopped this?
Which baffles me all the more since I've not altered anything? Maybe I'm confusing
ppl here? Lol

No confusion. Losing the list is what I understood your problem was.

Perhaps I was the one that wasn't clear.

My thought was that if you look at how the MRU list is cleared, you might find some clues as to why it isn't retaining the MRU list on your system.

For example, the comment about requiring the "default" key to exist.

Perhaps on your system the "default" key is missing or corrupted, and that might be why the OS is not able to maintain the MRU list. (or, it could be some other item in that area of the registry)

Re: Vista Niglies...

Tam the Bam — 2008-07-08T10:41:11-05:00

Pmsl! It's nice lol! I just want to do as little as I can when I'm on Vista. I can't be arsed
typing for some things when I know the mouse could do it for me. Yea, I'm a lazy s**t!