Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/ 2008-12-03T21:06:46-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2008-07-24T23:52:35-05:00 Rory Witham http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541525 LMAO.<br /> <br /> well anyway, they are trying to cut down on download sites again acording to the news inthe last two days..<br /> <br /> Yeah you are right they should do something, but then that takes away some freedom. im sure some americans will say its dam un constitutional.. but who the hell is going to stand up and say that they should keep child porn sites going?<br /> <br /> Stupidly the measuer is easy circum vented, the ISP would have to do anything like this on thier DNS server. and as anyone would know.. a simpe change in the router or the PC can change the DNS used to other ones.<br /> <br /> another point I will make is the ICRA records, surely website should have these as this filtering has been inplace of computer back since 98 ( may have been before) but I believe that Vista has put this back into action and all my sites where I have control of the content is all ICRA certified as family and child safe. prehaps they should get all websites to be certificated before they are allowed DNS records.. its would make things simpler.<br /> <br /> but hey, why make things simple.. if they wanted to make the internet better the telecoms companies would use the money that they exstort from us to put in new telephone lines so that the SNR is better and speeds are faster.. text/html 2008-07-23T01:05:53-05:00 Adam Kolak http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541357 McFly said: <div class="quote"><div class="quote">You can download drugs now too????!!!!!!!!!!!! Where man?? Pm me a link!</div><br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://offur.com/where-to-find-illegal-drugs" target="_blank">http://offur.com/where-to-find-illegal-drugs</a></div><br /> Wow, that site is very informative. <img src="http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/smilies/smile5.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0" alt=":P" title=":P"> text/html 2008-07-23T01:01:14-05:00 McFly http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541356 <div class="quote">You can download drugs now too????!!!!!!!!!!!! Where man?? Pm me a link!</div><br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://offur.com/where-to-find-illegal-drugs" target="_blank">http://offur.com/where-to-find-illegal-drugs</a> text/html 2008-07-22T23:44:15-05:00 DublinGunner http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541350 Beavis Khan said: <div class="quote">I have no idea where I first read this, but I believe it was at least 10 years ago.<br /> <br /> The Four Horseman of the Internet Apocalypse:<br /> <br /> - Child Pornographers<br /> - Terrorists<br /> - Drug Dealers<br /> - Pirates (I think the original was kidnappers, but I think that's a little passe, and have substituted accordingly)<br /> <br /> These will be used as an excuse to destroy freedom on the Internet, and thus ultimately the Internet itself, for all practical purposes. </div><br /> <br /> You can download drugs now too????!!!!!!!!!!!! Where man?? Pm me a link!<br /> <br /> lol text/html 2008-07-22T15:59:01-05:00 Beavis Khan http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541305 I have no idea where I first read this, but I believe it was at least 10 years ago.<br /> <br /> The Four Horseman of the Internet Apocalypse:<br /> <br /> - Child Pornographers<br /> - Terrorists<br /> - Drug Dealers<br /> - Pirates (I think the original was kidnappers, but I think that's a little passe, and have substituted accordingly)<br /> <br /> These will be used as an excuse to destroy freedom on the Internet, and thus ultimately the Internet itself, for all practical purposes. text/html 2008-07-22T15:15:56-05:00 DublinGunner http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541303 Hmm, while the moral premise of such a move is undoubtedly commendable, surely this is coming from the wrong source?<br /> <br /> Your ISP should have absolutely NO say whatsoever as to what websites you wish to visit, illegal or not.<br /> <br /> Next thing it will be torrent sites - as they are terribly illegal, and promote illegal copyright infringement, and it will be of course to protect their customers from unknowingly downloading copyrighted material illegally that this step will be taken.<br /> <br /> Then of course it will be access to tech sites that discuss possible workarounds for for said 'blocks'.<br /> <br /> Before you know it, access will be restricted to MSN. text/html 2008-07-22T10:14:03-05:00 Gerritt http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541293 For an ISP to become an enforcement point is the first step in any content censorship.<br /> This is actually scary to me.<br /> I've attempted to write a justification for outrage against this particular standard, however, given the way it is written it is extremely difficult to do so, but I feel that the ISP has taken the wrong approach.<br /> <br /> Let me try it via allagory instead.<br /> A telephone call between two teens of less than age of consent start talking about sex, so the telco cuts off the service of the originating telephone number based upon illegal content. This assumes a level of legal monitoring, and a level of restriction that should not legally exist.<br /> Even though they state that there is no monitoring or tagging of &quot;illicit&quot; sites, they have not stated that the hits on the redirected site are not monitored (the only way to get there is through hitting one of the filtered sites), so you can and are monitored, and these hits can be passed on as it is a generic site.....<br /> <br /> I seem to remember back in the early days that Germany desided that bad words on Compuserve needed to be filtered (given the state of German porn, this is confusing to me), so when a bunch of DOCTORS started talking about Breast in a forum, the German site cut them off as &quot;suggestive&quot;.....DAMN.<br /> <br /> Kiddy porn is a local policy issue, it could be anything from 14 to 18 to 21 to whatever.... I rather like the idea that you have to be in your 30s before you can post porn....at least then you know what you're doing!<br /> <br /> The ISP should not be engaged or legally required to do this. If this is legitimate, then what the Chinese and others have done is just as righteous. text/html 2008-07-22T08:54:37-05:00 FordGT90Concept http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#541291 I know there are pushes for it in the USA but as far as I know, no action. As far as I'm concerned, the Internet should be open. Even if ISPs disallow traffic to certain sites, there is always ways around it in addition to content being blocked that may be completely acceptable. text/html 2008-07-22T08:33:36-05:00 Kieran Blenkarne http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72065/#0 I just received this email form my ISP:<br /> <br /> <div class="quote">Hello This message is to inform you of a change in policy regarding access to some web sites via TelstraClear internet. We have decided to filter access to all known child sex abuse sites.This decision is based on the abhorrent nature of the content of these sites and our desire to create a safe online environment for our customers and their families. There are approximately 7000 known child sex abuse sites in the world. Many of them change their online address every couple of days. As a result, the list of sites is refreshed daily. TelstraClear will not be keeping records of any users who attempt to access these sites. This is not an intelligence gathering or covert measure. It is a simple filtering process to make the internet safer for all. Someone trying to access one of these listed sites will be redirected to a default page notifying them that access to that address is not allowed. This action will not impact the speed or performance of your broadband. We trust you will support our move to create a safe online environment. We appreciate and value your continued support and custom. Kind regards The team at TelstraClear</div><br /> <br /> I think its of course a good thing but I am curious as to whether other ISPs do this overseas?