Hardware Analysis Community Forums http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/ 2009-01-09T03:47:22-05:00 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/ http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/halogo.gif text/html 2008-10-16T04:34:10-05:00 MadBullet http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/?o=20#546633 So basically what this comes down to is... stay away from AMD chips, go INTEL and reconsider buying the GeForce GTX 280 text/html 2008-10-15T23:03:46-05:00 Sean Costello http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/?o=20#546623 no, i'd say that benchmark is pretty accurate, just look at the scale and you'll see.<br /> <br /> it's made to look a lot better when its only a few FPS text/html 2008-10-15T22:57:22-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/?o=20#546622 The 4870 X2 is faster but not THAT much faster... you should go to Anandtech or Hexus or some place like that and read reviews on the 4870 X2 if you wan't to get an accurate view of the speed of the card vs. nVidia's offerings. text/html 2008-10-15T22:46:50-05:00 MadBullet http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546620 for some reason i don't believe this...<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_radeonhd4870x2.aspx?p=4" target="_blank">http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_radeonhd4870x2.aspx?p=4</a><br /> <br /> is it really that big of a difference?<br /> <br /> haha text/html 2008-10-15T22:33:15-05:00 Sean Costello http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546619 i'd get an HD 4870X2 over the GTX280 text/html 2008-10-15T22:19:33-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546618 you may be able to use the one you have now.. how big is your current PSU? text/html 2008-10-15T21:50:39-05:00 MadBullet http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546617 I have about $1500 for a new computer... what would you guys buy with this? Maybe that'll clear up things haha but from what I am seeing AMD is out of the picture. Most people would definitely go with an Intel chip instead.<br /> <br /> Another quick one... what power supply size would you guys recommend for a rig like this?<br /> <br /> ...and thanks again for all this great information =) text/html 2008-10-15T21:48:48-05:00 Michael C http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546616 Why do people even consider buying Phenoms when they know Intels' are much faster? Just buy a Core 2 Quad please and be happy. text/html 2008-10-15T21:34:09-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546615 FingerMeElmo87 said: <div class="quote">MrBungle said: <br /> <div class="quote">That is unless you would prefer to wait unil next month and pick up one of the new Core i7 chips.</div><br /> <br /> a rig powered by Core i7 will cost about $900-$1100 minimum just for the CPU, RAM, and Motherboard</div><br /> <br /> I'm assuming that he's got a pretty good size budget since he's shopping for a quad core system with 4GB of RAM and a GTX 280 graphics card. text/html 2008-10-15T21:30:53-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546614 Meats_Of_Evil said: <div class="quote">MrBungle are you sure that q Phenom is not enough? To my understanding a bottleneck is caused when one component is not able to perform a certain task well enough because it lacks the required power to do so. I seriously don't think that any game today or even in the coming month or year will be so intense as to stress all 4 cores in the cpu.</div><br /> <br /> Q9550 vs Phenom 9950 BE = 40 FPS difference in favor of the Intel chip<br /> <br /> <a class="ext" href="/action/r/http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Unreal-Tournament-3-1680x1050,819.html" target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/...0,819.html</a><br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="quote">Besides, cpu is way overrated. I remember reading in Tom's Hardware or Guru3d that the minimum cpu needed to not bottleneck a 8800gtx or a 8800gt was an Athlon X2 @ 2.2ghz, something like that.</div><br /> <br /> I noticed a substantial increase in everything from modern shooters to RTS going from a Athlon X2 @ 2.6 to my Intel Quad on a 8800GT... With the Atlon in UT3 the preformance monitor on the G15 keyboard was showing 99 - 100% cpu usage and i was experiencing regular studders and slowdowns which all disappeared after upgrading the platform and keeping the GPU the same. That says CPU bottleneck to me.<br /> <br /> text/html 2008-10-15T21:27:57-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546613 MrBungle said: <br /> <div class="quote">That is unless you would prefer to wait unil next month and pick up one of the new Core i7 chips.</div><br /> <br /> a rig powered by Core i7 will cost about $900-$1100 minimum just for the CPU, RAM, and Motherboard text/html 2008-10-15T21:26:11-05:00 FingerMeElmo87 http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546611 Meats_Of_Evil said: <br /> <div class="quote">MrBungle are you sure that q Phenom is not enough? To my understanding a bottleneck is caused when one component is not able to perform a certain task well enough because it lacks the required power to do so. I seriously don't think that any game today or even in the coming month or year will be so intense as to stress all 4 cores in the cpu.</div><br /> <br /> even if games can't use all 4 cores, the achitecture of Phenoms hinder there performance. it may not be on a &quot;bottleneck&quot; level but C2D are much faster in games. text/html 2008-10-15T21:10:32-05:00 Meats_Of_Evil http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546610 MrBungle are you sure that q Phenom is not enough? To my understanding a bottleneck is caused when one component is not able to perform a certain task well enough because it lacks the required power to do so. I seriously don't think that any game today or even in the coming month or year will be so intense as to stress all 4 cores in the cpu. <br /> <br /> Besides, cpu is way overrated. I remember reading in Tom's Hardware or Guru3d that the minimum cpu needed to not bottleneck a 8800gtx or a 8800gt was an Athlon X2 @ 2.2ghz, something like that. text/html 2008-10-15T20:12:40-05:00 MrBungle http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546609 For what you're trying to do a Yorkfield based Intel Quad Core is the best choice. It will be more expensive than a Phenom but will be faster. All Intel Q9xx0 chips have a Yorkfield core. I think the Q9550 is as high as I would go because after that the increase in price for the increase in speed gets to be too high.<br /> <br /> That is unless you would prefer to wait unil next month and pick up one of the new Core i7 chips. text/html 2008-10-15T18:58:37-05:00 MadBullet http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/72706/#546605 What kind of CPU do you guys recommend, I see most of you have Intel...